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| posted on July 18th, 2010 at 11:09 PM |
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Turnkey's from Overseas
Hey guys,
I've been doing some research and looking at some prices of performance turnkey engines in the states.
I was wondering whether anyone here had done this and whether they would advise it or not?
Also, are there any hidden taxes etc when brining in an engine from overseas?
Cheers,
Ollie
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| posted on July 18th, 2010 at 11:25 PM |
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Mmmmm.........risky.
I have 1915 in my shed that cost $3k landed, but seized with no oil pressure on start up......
Turns out was not to badly assembled/built, just inexperienced owner!!!
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| posted on July 18th, 2010 at 11:42 PM |
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Yeah I have herd some horror stories about that.
However if I get one I'm thinking of taking it to a workshop to be run in.
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| posted on July 18th, 2010 at 11:43 PM |
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we got a complete mtr several yrs back
it ran great until it began to leak oil
pulled it down to discover the case was cracked
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| posted on July 19th, 2010 at 12:29 AM |
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why would you bother?
Shipping taxes etc , I dont think you will be saving any money
I have seen some excellent prices for engines here.look at this seems hard to beat. Mitchell
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=84553
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| posted on July 19th, 2010 at 07:58 AM |
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get yours rebuilt here much cheaper and you know what will go into it
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| posted on July 19th, 2010 at 08:08 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by OMClarke
However if I get one I'm thinking of taking it to a workshop to be run in.
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Find that person first
I reckon most people would be not that interested in having a motor (that someone else made all the money on the parts) given to them to do the scary
bit
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| posted on July 19th, 2010 at 12:17 PM |
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Hiya OMC,
I am overseas in the States and I don't think I'd be taking a chance ordering an engine if it had to be shipped. It's akin to buying a pig in a
poke. You really don't know what you're going to get.
Now I realize that some builders have excellent reputations. A few years ago when I did order an engine I ordered from what was then considered the
finest builder of 1600s in the States. This guy had the best of excellent reputations. I had to wait six months for the engine. It detonated less
than three thousand miles later due to parts quality issues. The builder was cross country from me. Sure, it could have been adjusted (pull the
engine, more crating and shipping, waiting, waiting) but the builder died the same week I received the engine.
The further away you are from the source, the more expensive and the more protracted any future problems will be. I've never been to Oz (I'm hoping
to get down there sometime soon) but I've just gotta believe that there are folks who are local to you that can do a super job rebuilding a 1600 or
modifying it for performance. Why not go with one of your mates?
Anyway, I learned my lesson from my experience. I rebuild my own engines. I now have a much more responsive builder and he offers a lifetime
guarantee. 
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| posted on July 19th, 2010 at 01:29 PM |
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Good advice.
It's like buying a lucky dip from the travelling carnival .. who are you going to go to if it all goes wrong?
Warranty is always a pain in the bum, but it is better if it is somewhere nearby from someone you know.
A few more $ spent now is a lot less $ spent later on. My thoughts.
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| posted on July 19th, 2010 at 01:48 PM |
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Agree with all the comments above re warranty etc, but on the purely import side of things... yes, there are hidden costs.
- First up, there's the customs entry fee... last time I copped it was a couple of years ago, and from memory was around $57... but may have gone up
since.
- There may also be duty payable, but generally VW stuff is exempt from that due to the age (basically exemptions for anything over 30 years old)
- Finally there's GST... Free Trade Agreement or not, you still gotta pay it - so add on 10% of the Australian Dollar equivalent value, excluding
shipping, but including the customs fee and any duty.
There's also some paperwork you have to do... registering both you and the sender with Customs and so-on, but that's just messing around, phone
calls, sending faxes etc - no $$$ charged.
To be really sure tho, give the Customs people a call... I've always found them really helpful answering questions, explaining what duties etc. there
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| posted on July 19th, 2010 at 01:54 PM |
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Customs contact info:
http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page5834.asp
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| posted on July 19th, 2010 at 03:25 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Sides
- Finally there's GST... Free Trade Agreement or not, you still gotta pay it - so add on 10% of the Australian Dollar equivalent value, excluding
shipping, but including the customs fee and any duty.
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Actually the GST is including shipping costs But also now days you add prior to the GST %5 import duty (thank KEVIN for that)
so say the motor cost $4000
shipping $ 500
import fees $ 57
Duty (on motor value) $ 400
now %10 GST $ 495
And dont think youy can undervalue items they know what things are worth and thats a hole other nightmare.
Of course you can get anything under $1000 AUD value in via post no duty or GST and you can do that as much as you like bringing bits in week at a
time but the shipping is a killer
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| posted on July 19th, 2010 at 04:05 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by waltermitty
also now days you add prior to the GST %5 import duty (thank KEVIN for that)
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Import duty has been payable since Noah was a lad; it's not recent policy.
hth
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| posted on July 19th, 2010 at 04:06 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by waltermitty
Actually the GST is including shipping costs But also now days you add prior to the GST %5 import duty (thank KEVIN for that)
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Really... GST on the shipping now too ??? Well that bites !!!
Guess makes it slightly sweeter that most volksy related stuff is exempt from duty...
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| posted on July 19th, 2010 at 07:46 PM |
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What i find funny/strange is that people want to buy a turn key motors cause they cant buy the parts for the same price
Surely it is the same price to ship a motor in pieces as it is to ship a complete motor??
So - you are saving the assembly cost from overseas.
The difference in assembly costs cant be more than ....... what and additional $750 here cause we pay propper wages???
So... if you are buying a complete turnkey motor from overseas for cheaper than you can buy the same parts parts....................................
maybe you aint getting what you thought you were getting???
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| posted on July 19th, 2010 at 08:49 PM |
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I just had my Country buggy motor assembled for $450 by Stan Pobjoy.........so why people have motors assembled O/S amazes me!
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| posted on July 19th, 2010 at 08:55 PM |
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do some research as to what constitutes an engine...versus parts.
A guy who was importing big V8s from the US once told me if you took out the distributor and some other key part it was no longer an 'engine' and
was partially assembled..... something like that.
Could save you some bucks... maybe.
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