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What oil filter to use for generic oil filter adapter kit?
G'day guys,
this is probably one of those 'how longs a piece of string' questions...
But i got one of those high flow oil pumps with oil filter adapter that runs to the side, it came in a blue-ish box ages ago, bought it from mick
motors, and it was european made...
Do the oil filter adapters just run a generic filter of some sort? Are oil filters universal in thread and inlet diameters?
It didn't come with a filter.... but appeared to be a good qualilty unit. Don't quote me, but i think it was german made.
The studs are too short to fully bolt it on, i should just get some longer bolts to put in instead of studs with lock washers?
thanks guys,
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G'day guys,
this is probably one of those 'how longs a piece of string' questions...
But i got one of those high flow oil pumps with oil filter adapter that runs to the side, it came in a blue-ish box ages ago, bought it from mick
motors, and it was european made...
Do the oil filter adapters just run a generic filter of some sort? Are oil filters universal in thread and inlet diameters?
It didn't come with a filter.... but appeared to be a good qualilty unit. Don't quote me, but i think it was german made.
The studs are too short to fully bolt it on, i should just get some longer bolts to put in instead of studs with lock washers?
thanks guys,
Christopher.
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Hi Chris..
or use longer studs...
I believe the usual oil filter is a Z9 as used on Fords Chris..
the Ryco Z9 would be OK and not expensive...
I know My Son only used high quality Z9 type of filter..
many other filters will also fit...
maybe best to take it into a shop and try a Z9... lol
Z9 are a large capacity spin on filter...
I believe many smaller capacity filters will also fit...
some threads are metric others imperial...
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Hi Chris, do you mean one of the Scat-type oil pumps where the oil filter screws onto the side, and sits horizontally? I had one of those for years on
my Beetle; they are great. I used longer studs with mine.
Lee is on the right track. The oil pumps are made for US market so the spin-on threads are imperial. A VW Golf /T3 Kombi filter has a metric thread,
so they won't fit. A normal Ford-style Z9 (milo tin size) will spin on and tighten down, but it will be too fat when mounted in the horizontal
position.
You need a filter that has the same thread and sealing ring diameter as the Z9, but a smaller diameter body. You don't want it much fatter than a
coke can. I can't remember the exact model now, but I think I used a Ryco filter for a Leyland or Chrysler.
The easiest way is to take your pump unit to Robbos or Repco and ask the shop guy if you can do some trial fits on some popular filter sizes. When
you've found the size you need, keep the box tag in your owners manual sleeve so you know which one to get next time.
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| posted on September 6th, 2010 at 08:20 AM |
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Thanks guys
Will do. I will take a peak at repco for the studs too... or just call around to the dub shop.
Yea i don't want too chunky of a filter as its a baja, and the lower filter/high flow pump mounting horizontally (like what u mention Phil) is
suppose to be a a big no no for the offroaders, but i will have a skid plate and will wrap it in a sock or ream of foam and carry a spare in case it
gets punctured. I just don't want to stuff around with remote oil filter and cooler lines plumbing to and from the stock oil cooler position, nor do
i want ot machine holes in my crank case. This filter/ pump thing does look the ducks nuts
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| posted on September 6th, 2010 at 10:15 AM |
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If it's like this then the filter here is a MAHLE FILTER OC47 bar code just in case 4009026960 also has a name KNECHT
Mine was installed by the mechanic who rebuilt the motor, don't know where he got it from.
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| posted on September 6th, 2010 at 11:33 AM |
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Hi
VWs mostly use a 3/4-16-UNF-2B thread, as do most aftermarket adaptors. You can check different size threads and fitting sizes at the Ryco site http://www.rycofilters.com.au
Im not a fan of Ryco filters, I prefer genuine.
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Hi
VWs mostly use a 3/4-16-UNF-2B thread, as do most aftermarket adaptors. You can check different size threads and fitting sizes at the Ryco site http://www.rycofilters.com.au
Im not a fan of Ryco filters, I prefer genuine.
Steve
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There are a lot of other brands of oil filters much cheaper than Ryco Steve...
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| posted on September 6th, 2010 at 01:00 PM |
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Just put on a std kombi type 4 fitment, preferebly OEM like Mahle, Knecht or Mann.
By the way, it definately won't be German made oil pump, more likely from China, not my prefered setup, particularly for a baja.
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| posted on September 6th, 2010 at 03:34 PM |
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z89a is the short version of the z9
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| posted on September 6th, 2010 at 05:19 PM |
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Hi
VWs mostly use a 3/4-16-UNF-2B thread, as do most aftermarket adaptors. You can check different size threads and fitting sizes at the Ryco site http://www.rycofilters.com.au
Im not a fan of Ryco filters, I prefer genuine.
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There are a lot of other brands of oil filters much cheaper than Ryco Steve...
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Hi Lee
I'm not worried about price, I buy genuine oil filters for our Prado, Davids Skyline and on his bug I use a German made filter buy Knecht Mann etc
Steve
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| posted on September 7th, 2010 at 09:48 AM |
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Thanks guys.
Yea i have been made aware that its not everyones favourite, but i'm loving the convenience of it at the moment and if its as risky as what everyone
says i will certainly learn my lesson. At the moment its a quick fix. In my gut to not run an oil filter is next to madness 
I have some pics of it! came in a blue-ish box... lol, tis all i know.
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that filter bit looks good chris...
longer studs or bolts will make it look Great... lol
OK... What is that between the alternator and the distributor?
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| posted on September 7th, 2010 at 02:59 PM |
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Hi again Chris
You need one of these oil fillers...
make adding oil a piece of cake ..lol
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lol thanks Lee. Yea that filler looks so much better.
Mine is some Chinese empi crap that suprisingly fits well and looks ok, but where the hole was drilled for the breather hose, its facing the ground,
such that when i fill it with oil, it loshes into the breather tube than extends from underneith ... Those Chinese dudes must be on some serious drugs. I will definitely keep my eye out there for another.
The 'thing' in between has been freshly rebuilt and will be a suprise  , at the moment i need to work out mounting/fitting and hence it was there at the time sittin loosely. Then i will give it an
exterior of 'it' a tidy up for show :P...
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OK... What is that between the alternator and the distributor?
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Is it an eggbeater?
I have no idea, completely stumped.
I've started looking into fitting a microwave to mine aswell Chris.
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| posted on September 7th, 2010 at 05:32 PM |
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I see you went for the 1.4 giggawatt flux capacitor
You'll be alot more happy with it than the smaller 1.21 giggawatt but it's gonna need some much stronger mounts
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Maybe a super charger ???
belt driven...
invisible mounts are excellent..
I cannot see them at all...
where do You get them from...?
and when You find them how do You pick them up..??
maybe spray the invisible mounts with black paint..???
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Nothing wronr with a wedge fit, the belt should keep it tight down at one end anyway
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lmfao!!! bwahaa i never thought you guys would have guessed about my
evil plots to build my invisible time machine kitchen on a bug pan...
There's no fooling yas is there 
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PS. Plug those exhaust ports Chris!! And the inlets if they're open.
What did I tell you about contamination control when I was there!!
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hahaha
I need to flush out the engine somehow too... cause the internal crankcase would have been exposed to air for some time... But only fine dust
particulates... Probably just squirt oil from the top around.... with the bottom of the case open.... i dunno... But i gotta od it before running, i
don't want those bearings getting premature wear! the engine is suppose to be good!
I'll cover em tomorrow!
I found out why CAT is padantic about contamination control! lol... Whilst getting tutored in the QUT BERF (Engine Research Facility) the common rail
peizoelectric diesel injectors have very fine openings and don't open mechanically like standard gasoline engine injectors. And they keep injecting
just just before TDC but partway through the power stroke, and suffer sever emissions issues and performance flaws if the opening and closing
sequences is somehow hindered by fine contaminates, apparently they are really sensative, and expensive!! Hence Cleanliness is next to 'high on
pedistal'-leeness...
Well... that my was my lesson for the day lol , i'm sure your all
up to date with these things... i'm just slow.... well moreso lazy...
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hahaha
I need to flush out the engine somehow too... cause the internal crankcase would have been exposed to air for some time... But only fine dust
particulates... Probably just squirt oil from the top around.... with the bottom of the case open.... i dunno... But i gotta od it before running, i
don't want those bearings getting premature wear! the engine is suppose to be good!
I'll cover em tomorrow!
I found out why CAT is padantic about contamination control! lol... Whilst getting tutored in the QUT BERF (Engine Research Facility) the
peizoelectric diesel injectors have very fine openings and don't open mechanically like standard gasoline engine injectors. And they keep injecting
just just before TDC but partway through the power stroke, and suffer sever emissions issues if the opening and closing sequences is somehow hindered
by fine contaminates, apparently they are really sensative, and expensive!! Hence Cleanliness is next to 'high on pedistal'-leeness...
Well... that my was my lesson for the day lol , i'm sure your all
up to date with these things... i'm just slow.... well moreso lazy...
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Yeah, but it's not just fuel systems.
They're strict on everything.
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z89a is the short version of the z9
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I run a Z89A - I have a sandwitch plate between the take off on the pump cover and the filter, with lines running to my external cooler, so it is all
I can fit in. I find the Ryco is slightly shorter than other brands, and the extra 1 or 2 millimeters makes it much easier to get it in & out past
the heater box.
I hope it lasts OK. This is the 3rd motor I have had this set up on - about 285,000 kms so far.
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Hi
I had the same filter pump as Jeff's on David's bug, I had to take it off because I fitted a A1 header and I couldn't get a filter short enough to
fit in.
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Was just asking my old man about this Chris.
He works at Repco and says that the Z9 is probably the most common filter they sell.
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z89a is the short version of the z9
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I run a Z89A - I have a sandwitch plate between the take off on the pump cover and the filter, with lines running to my external cooler, so it is all
I can fit in. I find the Ryco is slightly shorter than other brands, and the extra 1 or 2 millimeters makes it much easier to get it in & out past
the heater box.
I hope it lasts OK. This is the 3rd motor I have had this set up on - about 285,000 kms so far.
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a Z418 is about half the length of the Z9....
there are some brands of Z9 like oil filters a bit longer than the normal Z9...
I think Z9s fitted all 6 cylinder Ford cars for about 30 years or more...
plus other vehicles...
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Thanks Lads Time to go shopping then! I will definitely go for the
smaller oil fiter varient, The z-9 by the sounds of it would probably hold like 800mls of oil alone
It will be wrapped in some sort of dense foam and covered eventually by a skid plate, once i get my own transport to pick up these things, when i work
out why these darn injectors would ground through the ecu on my silly car.
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