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 bajachris88
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| posted on September 15th, 2010 at 10:05 PM |
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Lead filling a vw...
I had heard about it ages back, but never seen it before till now.
How guilt free is that opposed to dirty body filler! (whom i'm sure 99% of us a guilty for using at some point  )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFJEoN9yKPE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAZwX7G0ulM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWnj08xQySI&feature=related
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| posted on September 15th, 2010 at 10:10 PM |
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what your forgetting is the fumes and other reasons that they got rid of it.
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bajachris88
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| posted on September 15th, 2010 at 10:10 PM |
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I spose the other question is, which ones more toxic.... ?
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bajachris88
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| posted on September 15th, 2010 at 10:10 PM |
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oh! lol, thoughts at the same time...
Makes sense hey...
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| posted on September 16th, 2010 at 12:22 AM |
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I do lead filling at least once a week. Most cars I work on have it done. Expensive stuff. Has limitations though.
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| posted on September 16th, 2010 at 12:56 AM |
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that's why Karmann Ghias are poisonous ... all that lead on their bodies....
and I can easily see why plastic epoxy cement was invented
its much easier than that and You cannot burn yourself...
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| posted on September 16th, 2010 at 07:21 AM |
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Don't know for certain, but I'm sure more people in the auto industry have problems related to plastic filler, than lead-wiping. The big NO-NO with
lead is.....DO NOT GRIND IT! Use a file to finish the shape.
I've still got my old wooden 'wiping bats', that I've had for over 50 years - and still use them. If you use the correct lead filler - not 50/50
solder - you can get a very nice finish on the lead, which will need minimal filing.
Cheers, Greg
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| posted on September 16th, 2010 at 08:54 AM |
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That's awesome, I love youtube!!
I've always wondered about this but I've never seen it, till now.
Just think, all the lead that gets filed off can go back into the lead pot and get re-used, try that with plastic body filler.
The other thing is because it's expensive (compared to bog) the panel would have to actually be panel beaten very close to it's shape instead of
just using bog (filler) to get the shape.
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| posted on September 16th, 2010 at 10:56 PM |
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I wouldn't want to be working around the lead fumes, but how does it affect you rpower to weight LOL
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| posted on September 16th, 2010 at 11:18 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by bajachris88
How guilt free is that opposed to dirty body filler! (whom i'm sure 99% of us a guilty for using at some point )
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how is body filler dirty?
Its used for a reason and used propely is fine. its when u get the people filling 2 inch deep dents that give it a bad name and it would be no
different to lead wiping if you tryed to fill a deap dent..WRONG!..
lead has its place but its a nasty bit of gear to work with hence why its gone from main stream and been replace with bog.
when i learnt my trade it was at a resto shop and the old fella used lead a lot. Even he wuld say bog was much nice to work with in the bigger
picture.
like everything , things get a bad name because people do stupid things with them , doesn't mean its a stupid thing just the way some use it if that
makes sence..
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| posted on September 17th, 2010 at 01:07 PM |
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Lead wiping gives a great finish when done right, but preping the metal undernear is alot more work, of course the metal needs to be clean and rust
free, but at Tafe, the teachers kept mentioning that the metal must be clean and shiny underneath, and when welding repairs, you can get tarnish?
around the metal that must be removed. It's a bit of a PITA to use a deburring tool to get in all the nooks and crannys.
But would I continue to use it if I could afford it ... YES. (However it wouldn't replace body filler entirely)
As everyone else mentioned, body filler is great when used CORRECTLY. No reason to feel guilty using it, unless you have been filling rust holes with
it 
Thats not rust, it's ah ... orange primer ... yep that's what it is ...
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| posted on September 17th, 2010 at 06:26 PM |
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More lead wiping today for me at work. The E-Type Jaguar I am working on is built originally using it on all panel joins and edges. Yes the metal has
to be bright clean, and then has to be tinned to make the body wiping lead stick on. We use 30/70.
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| posted on September 17th, 2010 at 06:51 PM |
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The nice neat gaps - doors, bonnet, etc - on the 356 Porsche are created with the help of lead-wiping. Being much harder than plastic, it withstands a
lot of 'knocking about'.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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| posted on September 17th, 2010 at 07:42 PM |
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356 resto
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=62221&page=1
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| posted on September 19th, 2010 at 10:50 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by HappyDaze
The nice neat gaps - doors, bonnet, etc - on the 356 Porsche are created with the help of lead-wiping. Being much harder than plastic, it withstands a
lot of 'knocking about'.
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lead is actually much softer, but yes its much stronger, much more flexible/malleable, seals out moisture and corrosion 9,000 time better.
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