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| posted on November 26th, 2010 at 07:04 AM |
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VW Polo - CarsGuide Car of the Year 2010
VOLKSWAGEN has done it again.
For the second straight year, the German carmaker has topped the best of the best to claim the Carsguide Car of the Year award. Last year it was VW
Golf. This time it's the baby Polo that has done the job, trumping the top 10 contenders and finishing ahead of the Kia Sportage and Skoda Superb
wagon
In the end the Polo scored a convincing win, not because of its $16,690 starting price but because of its impressive safety, quality, comfort and
driving enjoyment. Look no further - the Golf's little brother is the worlds best small car," says Paul Pottinger, one of the Carsguide COTY
judges.
The battle for the 2010 COTY prize began with a cull of more than 100 new arrivals in Australia through the year since the Golf claimed its COTY
trophy. The eventual contenders cover every class and price category, from the baby Hyundai i20 through the luxury BMW 5 Series and the E-Class from
Mercedes-Benz.
The Carsguide COTY contest is a national award which draws its judges from News Limited papers and websites from coast-to-coast, with former rally
star - and current economy champion - Ed Ordynski also joining the panel for 2010.
The judges are led by managing editor Ged Bulmer, who is joined by Carsguide chief reporter Paul Gover, Karla Pincott of Carsguide.com.au, Neil
Dowling of the Sunday Times in Perth, Stuart Martin of the Advertise in Adelaide, Craig Duff of the Herald Sun in Melbourne, Paul Pottinger of the
Daily Telegraph in Sydney, Peter Barnwell of news suburbans and Mark Hinchliffe of the Courier Mail, Brisbane.
Together they put the 10 finalists through two gruelling days of tests, from track laps to back-seat measurements, but concentrating on real-world
driving in all conditions from stop-start city traffic to deserted gravel roads.
http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/news-and-reviews/car-news/polo_wins_car_of_t...
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| posted on November 27th, 2010 at 07:40 PM |
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I read in the SMH today that the Polo has also won the DRIVE Car of the Year award too.
So far:
World Car of the Year - 2009 Golf, 2010 Polo
Cars Guide Car of the Year - 2009 Golf, 2010 Polo
DRIVE Car of the Year -2009 Golf, 2010 Polo
NRMA Best Cars Car of the Year - 2009 Golf, 2010 ...?
Wheels Car of the Year - 2009 Golf, 2010 ...?
Keep an eye on the Best Cars and the Wheels award - chances are the Polo will win those too...
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| posted on November 27th, 2010 at 09:15 PM |
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Saw one of these on the road the other day
REckon they look a heap better than the Mk 6 Golf
I like!!
No GTi at the moment though?? 
Futue te ipsum!!!
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| posted on November 28th, 2010 at 03:50 PM |
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The Polo GTI was on display at the recent Sydney motor show, looking fantastic in red. They said it would be going on sale 'in the new year'.
In fact the Polo GTI is on sale now. It was released for local sale on Friday.
The 1.4-litre twin charger engine produces 134 kW, up from 110 kw in the previous model, and 250 Nm. 7-speed DSG gearbox. 0-100 in 6.9 sec, and just
6.1 L/100 km combined.
3-door model is $27,790, 5-door is $28,990.
http://www.nextcar.com.au/n.vw.polo.101126.gti.html
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| posted on November 28th, 2010 at 04:04 PM |
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mmmmmmmmmmm................just found my next car 
Futue te ipsum!!!
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| posted on November 28th, 2010 at 04:07 PM |
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Here's some more stuff to get you excited:
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/first-drive-volkswagen-polo-gti-20101127-1...
And the one that's music to my ears:
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/new-vw-scirocco-coming-to-australia-201011...
Mmmmmmm Scirocco R
Shame I can't afford it and it's too small for the family.
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| posted on November 29th, 2010 at 08:12 AM |
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It would be great if the Scirocco R does finally make it here - if so maybe it can be NEXT year's Car of The Year for all the magazines and
newspapers.
Interestingly, the Scirocco R is slated to have the full Euro-spec 198 kW engine, whereas the Golf R (same engine in Europe) is detuned for Australia
to 188 kW. YET - the Scirocco R is front-drive only, not 4Motion all-wheel-drive like the Golf R. More power but only through the front wheels...
The Polo GTI is great value for $27,990. Those AussieVeedubbers still driving Magnas, Subarus, Falcons, Commodores, Evos etc should trade them in.
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| posted on November 29th, 2010 at 08:00 PM |
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It would be great if the Scirocco R does finally make it here - if so maybe it can be NEXT year's Car of The Year for all the magazines and
newspapers.
Interestingly, the Scirocco R is slated to have the full Euro-spec 198 kW engine, whereas the Golf R (same engine in Europe) is detuned for Australia
to 188 kW. YET - the Scirocco R is front-drive only, not 4Motion all-wheel-drive like the Golf R. More power but only through the front wheels...
The Polo GTI is great value for $27,990. Those AussieVeedubbers still driving Magnas, Subarus, Falcons, Commodores, Evos etc should trade them in.
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Great car except I need a little more space than a 3 door polo.
I feel used and abused. I've been told by 3 different salesmen at 3 different dealers that they'll call me in the morning, but they never do! I gave
up after 2, but since I was going to be in the district I thought I'd try another. I spent about 45 minutes in the dealership, didnt talk bullshit,
didnt try to haggle prices... just waiting, chatting all things VW old and new. But no phone call, and still no response to my web enquiry. I see
shitloads of MkVIs on the road, not sure what I am doing wrong. Arent they supposed to call and say that its not me, its him?
 
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| posted on November 29th, 2010 at 08:15 PM |
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I think personally that the Polo is fearsomely expensive for what it is. My grandparents were interested in one and had a test drive, but it was a bit
small for them. They got an up-specced Hyundai i30 (a considerably larger car) for about $6000 less than what the Polo would have cost, with all of
the same equipment and more. It may well be a nice car, but in the small car market price is usually everything. I'm surprised that it won because
the various Car of the Year contests usually heavily favour value for money over all else.
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| posted on November 29th, 2010 at 09:21 PM |
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well, yeah, but you can get laptops with the same spec as my toshiba but a lot cheaper, and you can buy some really cheap TV's at JB Hi Fi with the
same res and features as a Sony but they just dont look and feel the same.
Would take a bigger still Lancer over a Hyundai, but agree Polo is too small. If you cant fit your golf clubs behind the back seat then its not worth
having.  Only good for P plate chicks buying new shoes and handbags.
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| posted on December 2nd, 2010 at 09:49 AM |
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I think personally that the Polo is fearsomely expensive for what it is. My grandparents got an up-specced Hyundai i30 (a considerably larger car) for
about $6000 less than what the Polo would have cost, with all of the same equipment and more. It may well be a nice car, but in the small car market
price is usually everything. I'm surprised that it won because the various Car of the Year contests usually heavily favour value for money over all
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$27,990 is for the top-spec GTI model. The normal Polo starts at just $16,690 for a 1.4 3-door manual Trendline. And before you say '1.4 isn't
much' - it makes 63 kW (a 1600 Superbug made 37 kW), more than enough for commuting to work and normal running around in VW comfort and efficiency
(6.1L / 100 km ). The reason the Polo has won all the awards is that it IS better value than its competition, as well as being simply a better vehicle
in the first place. And best of all - it's a Vee Dub.
In any case you always pay a bit more for a better product, whether it be TVs, stereos, power tools, fridges, whatever. There's no law against buying
cheap crap cars. Back in the late '50s lots of people paid less than £800 for cars like Morris Minors, Simcas, Hillmans, Austins and Standards,
maybe even paid more to spec them up a bit, when Volkswagens were relatively expensive at £899. History has shown which were the better buy, and
it's the same today.
Sure the Polo is a little city car - it's the smallest model in the Australian range at present - so if you need more space you should consider a
Golf or Jetta. That said, the current Polo is bigger than the Mk1 Golf was - and it was praised at the time for being roomier than a Torana.
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All of that is very good Phil, I don't doubt that it's a good car like all VWs. However, in the small car market, a lot of buyers are very tight for
cash, they may be parents buying a first car for their child, or often retired pensioners. For these people, the price difference of a couple of
thousand on a small car is often too much to get over. Also, I've never seen a Polo advertised for $16,990. As far as I've heard the starting price
for a 3 door Trendline is $19,990, which is too much. At that price you're $5000 clear of the cheaper competitors and at least $2k above most others.
That's a lot!
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| posted on December 2nd, 2010 at 01:11 PM |
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I suppose it comes down to whether you value paying a little extra for (award winning) Volkswagen quality over saving a few bucks on a cheep and
cheerful Korean thing. I'm a VW enthusiast first, so I do - and I'm glad that many others have also felt the same over the years, or there wouldn't
be used VWs to choose from. Every Beetle, Type 3 or Kombi on the road mean that, once, someone chose to pay extra for it new rather than choosing a
cheaper Corolla or Datsun 120Y, Hiace or Ezy-Loader. Thank goodness ! But most people won't, which is why Kias and Hyundais sell more than the Polo.
Still its nice to know that the Polo is better.
I've read lots of reports and reviews that quote the Polo as starting at $16,690 for the most basic Trendline, such as http://www.caradvice.com.au/66927/2010-volkswagen-polo-review/
But having checked the VW Australia website, they now say $19,990 (that's drive-away - maybe includes all on-roads? I dunno), so you're right.
Either they've upspecced that model since release, or jacked the price up.
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I was doing really well until I was asked about VW twice this week. All of a sudden I'm half looking again.
Tell me why the Polo GTI is only available in DSG? Dumb. The DSG is brilliant going up gears. Not so much going down into second around corners. Too
slow. On paper the performance looks better than MkV Golf GTI. Better power to weight ratio 9.12 vs 9.01kg/kW and better torque to weight 4.79 vs
4.76.
One really crazy item in the brochure is the towing capacity. How long would a 63kW polo trendline last pulling a 1 tonne trailer????
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I suppose since VW Australia sells more DSG Golf GTIs than manual GTIs, they supposed the Polo choices would also go the same way. And since they only
sell 3,000 Polos a year and 15,000 Golfs, it wasn't worth the expense of adding a manual option.
According to the VW UK website, they only get the DSG as well. http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/#/new/polo-v/which-model/compare/853/
I guess for 99.999% of everyday drivers, with our speed limits they way they are and the number of cameras out to catch you, the DSG will be just
fine. I'd like to see someone try a Polo GTI at Wakefield Park or Huntley but people who buy them don't seem to be interested.
Yes 63kW doesn't sound like much, but a 2-litre Kombi only made 51kW and plenty of them tow 1-tonne trailers. I suppose normally you wouldn't, but
it's nice to know that if you had to, you COULD.
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posted by amazeer
I was doing really well until I was asked about VW twice this week. All of a sudden I'm half looking again.
Tell me why the Polo GTI is only available in DSG? Dumb. The DSG is brilliant going up gears. Not so much going down into second around corners. Too
slow. On paper the performance looks better than MkV Golf GTI. Better power to weight ratio 9.12 vs 9.01kg/kW and better torque to weight 4.79 vs
4.76.
One really crazy item in the brochure is the towing capacity. How long would a 63kW polo trendline last pulling a 1 tonne trailer????
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I agree, I'm interested in a GTI Polo, however I don't want DSG. A 6 speed manual would be tops and it'd probably drop the price by a couple of
grand. That would make the GTI untouchable from a value for money point of view.
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posted by amazeer
I was doing really well until I was asked about VW twice this week. All of a sudden I'm half looking again.
Tell me why the Polo GTI is only available in DSG? Dumb. The DSG is brilliant going up gears. Not so much going down into second around corners. Too
slow. On paper the performance looks better than MkV Golf GTI. Better power to weight ratio 9.12 vs 9.01kg/kW and better torque to weight 4.79 vs
4.76.
One really crazy item in the brochure is the towing capacity. How long would a 63kW polo trendline last pulling a 1 tonne trailer????
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good to hear u r looking again 
get back on the wagon n get that golf for the golf clubs 
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Like you say, trying to find manuals is impossible. When I was looking at golfs I couldnt find a manual from nowra, moss vale, liverpool to sutherland
or anywhere in between.
I've driven 3 dsgs. A passat with the steering wheel paddle shift, an fsi and tdi golfs with the secondary gate on the shifter. My falcon also has
the secondary gate. I cant get used to driving them in manual mode. The passat I might have been able to get used to... only it shifts itself back to
auto after a short period of time. The DSG is supposed to be equal or quicker in drag race accelaration times. What it cant predict though is what you
can see. An overtaking lane about to open up. Or worse overtaking on the other side of the road. It cant see the hill approaching, it doesnt know if
you are slowing down for a traffic light, a bend or a corner. For moving around in city peak hour it may be fine. I know its had several design awards
and they ARE better autos than anything else I've ever driven or been a passenger in. Its definitely not for a car "driver" though. Give me a 5
speed manual over a 7 speed DSG any day. If you arent a car driver, dont waste your money on a Polo GTI. Its just stupid. Get a bigger smoother Golf.
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All of that is very good Phil, I don't doubt that it's a good car like all VWs. However, in the small car market, a lot of buyers are very tight for
cash, they may be parents buying a first car for their child, or often retired pensioners. For these people, the price difference of a couple of
thousand on a small car is often too much to get over. Also, I've never seen a Polo advertised for $16,990. As far as I've heard the starting price
for a 3 door Trendline is $19,990, which is too much. At that price you're $5000 clear of the cheaper competitors and at least $2k above most others.
That's a lot!
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Each to thier own and no offence but a certain cliche comes to mind...
You get what you pay for...(generally speaking)!!
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