Talking to my mechanic and from what he says it seems a little more involved than I thought.
Can anyone tell me what mods are required and a rough costing for it?
Thanks
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posted on May 3rd, 2011 at 11:40 PM
Need kombi gearbox adapter kit, Which includes front and rear mount and shifter rod adapter coupling.
Then need adapted axles, Kombi inner cv splines, and bug outter. Unless your sumhow able to swap and change around the stub axles and go kombi all
round? i dunno, but i got the adapter axles when i bought hte kit second hand.
Thats all you need, and its all bolt on .
The adapter front and rear mounts use the original vw bug style urethane or rubber mounts. Its not bad if u got all the bits there.
As long as its a 3 rib 1600 irs box then 12 volt vw motors just bolt up and the flywheels suit. if its later kombi box for 1800cc-2ltr type 4 motor,
you will need to adapt the bug type 1 donk.
This above is assuming you are talking about adapting IRS kombi boxes and not the early swing axle. I dunno whats involved with swing axle adaptation.
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Will I need to modify where the shift rod connects as the Kombi comes out the top whereas the beetle comes out in the middle. Or do I need to modify
the pan where the shift rod goes into it?
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As Chris said your engine will bolt straight up to a 3-rib, but in the other two the input shaft for the gearbox is 10-15mm too long. It's a simple
procedure to swap a Beetle input shaft into the box and then your engine will bolt up fine.
If you don't have a body lift you will have to modify the body of your car under the backseat area where the centre seatbelt bolt holes are.
Otherwise the gearbox will contact your body. The other option that you have here is a 10° Mounting kit. Which drops the front of the gearbox down,
this raises the rear of the engine slightly and everything is on a 10° angle, hence the name.
You will need a gearbox mounting kit. There are a few different types out from different companies. Or you can just make your own, it's not too
difficult.
CV's and axles. There are a few ways to go about this. As Chris said above you can get axles that are splined for a Kombi CV (gearbox end) on one
side and a Beetle spline (stub axle end) on the other.
You can also buy stub axles to fit the beetle rear end that have a Kombi CV bolt pattern, then you have Kombi inner and outer CV's.
I've also seen standard beetle stub axle's with the CV bolt holes welded up then remachined to suit the Kombi CV bolt pattern.
It is advantageous to run the Kombi CV's because they are capable of operating at a greater angle, therefore giving you more rear wheel travel before
binding up. If you have a Beetle outer and Kombi inner CV with the adapted axle you are still limited to the travel of the stock Beetle CV (sorry
Chris, something for you to upgrade )
Then because your car is a Swingaxle you need to perform an IRS (the CV kind) conversion to your rear end.
You need to weld in the pivot boxes http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=76337&page=1#pid728784
And then source all the parts for the rest of the suspension conversion
- diagonal arms
- spring plates and covers
- torsion bars
- modify the shock towers
- IRS handbrake cables etc etc
The last thing is the gearshifter linkage. You can buy the blocks like Chris mentioned above. Or weld two of the later model square shifter linkages
on top of each other Like Wes did
If you have a 10° kit then the front of the gearbox is dropped down so that Kombi shift rod goes through the standard hole in the body, so you don't
need adapters or have to put holes in the body/lift kit.
If you have any questions on the fussiness I posted above don't hesitate to ask
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Thanks Chris and Smiley I didn't think it would be as hard as I had been told. Just gotta collect the parts and get motivated to do it.
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posted on May 5th, 2011 at 10:34 PM
Ur alright mate, half the fun is collecting :P ready for that big upgrade.
Lol, Daniel thats all kool, i'm not sure if the beetle outter cv's lack of travel is a worry for me at the moment, as i can have the spring plate
resting on the stop no worries and reach the bump stop back when it was stock. Probably not a concern until i consider extended trailing arms? I'm
not too familiar in that sector at all, i dunno if extended trailings arms are even legal. I think the biggest concern engineering wise with Captain
'anal'-Copper complaining about the extended wheelbase perhaps... (anyone in the know please enlighten!!)
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New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
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