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 AyeBee
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| posted on July 23rd, 2011 at 03:09 PM |
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Starting/Battery woes..
Bought a new 6v battery, installed into car - get headlights/radio/wipers/dash lights - but only a click when I try to start.
Cleaned all connections, earth point on body for earth strap, no change. Just a a click.
However, car will start and then run if I jump start it with a spare 12v battery i have here. I then drive the car around for 30mins or so, come home,
try and start after shutting down - just the faint click again.
What are other things I should consider looking at to fault find?
The new battery is a Supercharge (model N03) 6V 250CCA, is this not enough?
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| posted on July 23rd, 2011 at 10:17 PM |
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Is the new battery fully charged
???starter motor or starter motor bush in gearbox worn.
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Craig Torrens
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| posted on July 23rd, 2011 at 10:19 PM |
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do you have the earth strap from the gearbox to the chassis ? Is it in good condition ?
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AyeBee
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| posted on July 24th, 2011 at 02:01 PM |
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Thanks gents, will have a look - worst case I'll take it to a auto elec.
Cheers
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| posted on July 24th, 2011 at 02:17 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by ian.mezz
Is the new battery fully charged
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A new battery will only be half charged at best.
Considering the low voltage to start with, any voltage drops in the system will be more noticeable. I would give the battery a really good charging
before anything else.
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| posted on July 24th, 2011 at 03:54 PM |
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Thanks Phil - it's on charge as we speak, crossing fingers that's the cause.
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| posted on July 25th, 2011 at 09:57 AM |
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Battery fully charged, still doesn't start. Was hoping it was as simple as that.
Time to start looking at starter/solenoid and look for this other earth strap.
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| posted on July 25th, 2011 at 10:09 AM |
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OK, I'll be the one that asks the dumb question... it's definitely a 6V system in the car still, yeah ???
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| posted on July 25th, 2011 at 10:31 AM |
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I hope, it's what the previous owner told me it was. My first VW so not really sure what Im looking at, it needed a jump start to drive it home when
I bought it.
How do I check whether its 12 or 6 to make sure?
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| posted on July 25th, 2011 at 10:41 AM |
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Ahh, right - fair enuff.
A decent pic of the engine bay we might be able to tell... if it's been obviously converted to 12V with a different generator or regulator setup for
example.
Best way to be 100% is to get the engine running (jump start it if needed) and then measure the Voltage coming out of the Generator... basically get a
multimeter and measure the Voltage between the main charging cable (D+) and Earth.
btw - if it is a 12V converted car... giving it 6V I'm surprised the starter would even go click !!!
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| posted on July 25th, 2011 at 03:51 PM |
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Just checked, got a 6 volt coil so guessing its definetly a 6 volt system.
Thanks for everyones help, its booked into an auto electrician for tomorrow morning - will let them sort out the issue.
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| posted on July 25th, 2011 at 04:12 PM |
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Hmm, yeah - 6V coil doesn't necessarily mean a 6V system, but no worries - your auto sparky should be able to sort it out for ya !!!
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| posted on July 25th, 2011 at 04:22 PM |
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my money is on a worn starter and/or bush.... 
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| posted on July 25th, 2011 at 07:37 PM |
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Engine bay
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| posted on July 25th, 2011 at 09:38 PM |
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yep - 6 Volt.
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| posted on July 25th, 2011 at 10:20 PM |
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Ta.
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| posted on July 26th, 2011 at 03:51 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by ratty 63
my money is on a worn starter and/or bush....
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BINGO!! Was a worn starter.
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| posted on July 26th, 2011 at 06:09 PM |
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Cool - good you've gotten it sorted !!!
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| posted on July 27th, 2011 at 09:15 AM |
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Great news. 
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| posted on July 27th, 2011 at 07:46 PM |
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Wouldn't read about it though... driving home from the auto electrician this afternoon - accelerator cable went, car had to be towed. Ah the joys!
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| posted on July 28th, 2011 at 10:00 AM |
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Should have just grabbed the spare one from under the seat and fitted it right there and then.... you do have a spare one don't you?
It wouldn't be a VW if it didn't test you from time to time....
Perhaps it would be a good time to invest in a spare clutch cable... I have a spare of both accelerator and clutch cables stashed under the back seat
of my '63 Bug, along with a spare set of points and a spare condenser. Haven't needed any of them yet... but that is only because I have them with
me 
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