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| posted on September 27th, 2011 at 07:10 PM |
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What tyres Empi 8 spokes on a stock 68 bug
Just revived my 68 bug thats been in storage over here in Ireland and got it taxed and on the road yesterday. I restored it back in 1995 when cal-look
was the thing and its currently on 195/50-15 tyres which wreck the gearing.
What tyres would you suggest I should run on the back, its running stock height (Irish roads aren't that great for a lowered car)
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| posted on September 27th, 2011 at 07:50 PM |
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I have a 69 with empi 8's and lowered. I have 195 X 65 X 15 on the rear and 175 X 65 X 15 on the front
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| posted on September 27th, 2011 at 08:14 PM |
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205/65 15 is what i use to run. its the closest you can get to the stock 185/100s
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| posted on September 28th, 2011 at 09:12 AM |
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I've got 185/65 on the front and 205/60 on the rear with Empi 8's. Lowering it this week so we'll see how that goes.
Paulc1964au, how much did you lower the front of yours? I'm a bit concerned that I'm going to go too low and have to pull the struts out and adjust
them again. They're the Empi type and I've gone to about half way. Yours looks good and with 175/65's do you have any tyre/wheel rubbing issues?
P.S. Apologies Matara for hijacking your post.
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| posted on September 28th, 2011 at 09:26 AM |
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Hi Steve
The stock radial tyre is 155SR15, its 25.1 inches tall or about 635 mm tall. You need to stick with that size or a little larger in overall height to
keep your gearing OK.
Steve
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| posted on September 28th, 2011 at 02:20 PM |
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Steve! more beetles in the collection! when are you back in town?
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| posted on September 28th, 2011 at 06:39 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Sbug 71
I've got 185/65 on the front and 205/60 on the rear with Empi 8's. Lowering it this week so we'll see how that goes.
Paulc1964au, how much did you lower the front of yours? I'm a bit concerned that I'm going to go too low and have to pull the struts out and adjust
them again. They're the Empi type and I've gone to about half way. Yours looks good and with 175/65's do you have any tyre/wheel rubbing issues?
P.S. Apologies Matara for hijacking your post.
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In the photo you see the car was very low, I had to install a two inch narrowed beam and then limit the turning circle as the wheels were rubbing on
the headlight tubs with the two inch drop spindles and the beam lowered. I have since raised it an inch and readjusted the turning circle. No rubbing
what so ever, I was having problems without the narrowed beam so I recommend if you put two inch drop spindles then a narrowed beam is a must
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| posted on September 28th, 2011 at 07:09 PM |
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why put bandaids on the problem of rubbing front wheels by fitting a narrowed beam which is illegal, all you have to is fit a set of wheels with the
right offset
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| posted on September 28th, 2011 at 07:13 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by vwo60
why put bandaids on the problem of rubbing front wheels by fitting a narrowed beam which is illegal, all you have to is fit a set of wheels with the
right offset
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Not illegal if the wheel tract is still the same though?
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| posted on September 28th, 2011 at 07:27 PM |
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Hi
Actually if you narrow your beam by a set amount, your new track is the stock track minus the narrowing amount, welding a suspension component is
another grey area as well as drop spindles.
Steve
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| posted on September 29th, 2011 at 12:22 AM |
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The beetle is over here in Ireland, so the laws are not as tough, but I'm really concerned about the rear tyre size. Its only running a 1300TP, so I
want to get the biggest tyre I can under it, so it has better legs on the open road. At present it has 195/50-15's on the rear which is way too
small. I will be using stock spindles and stock disk brakes up front, and I think I can go a bit bigger than 195/50-15.
Benny, I've had this car since 1994! Its been in my dads garage for most of the time, only coming out once in a while. I will be over here until Feb
next year.
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| posted on September 30th, 2011 at 08:20 PM |
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Hi Paul1964au
Sorry to disagree with you , if you narrow the beam to fit a wheel that has the wrong offset and it maintains the standard track it is loading up
your suspension, it is the relationship between the center line of your wheel and a line drawn through the king pin / ball joints, that determine
your scrub radius, when you narrow the beam 50MM and arrive at the same track as standard you are technicly 50MM over track, the relationship to the
rest of the suspension has been change well and truely outside the legall limit, a increase in bump steer, tramlining under brakes, increased wear in
the front end including the inner trailing arm bushes, kin pins, link pins along with a increase in effort to turn the steering wheel, I have a set of
16 x 6 rims on the front of my convertable with 195 50 16 tyres and have no rubbing issues other that a slight reduction in the turning circle.
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| posted on October 31st, 2011 at 11:48 AM |
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After searching the forum, I still haven't really seen a definitive answer to the question...
'Has anyone in QLD had a 2.5" dropped spindle and 2" narrowed front beam on a beetle successfully mod plated?'
I'm considering getting this done to my daily driver, but I want to do it legally and without any possibility of getting my insurance rejected if I
need to claim.
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| posted on October 31st, 2011 at 11:56 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by vwo60
why put bandaids on the problem of rubbing front wheels by fitting a narrowed beam which is illegal, all you have to is fit a set of wheels with the
right offset
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4x130 rims with an array of offsets aren't exactly falling from the sky.
If you dont like Empi 8s and sprintstars there's not much out there unless you want to exchange a testicle and kidney for some simmons.
Change stud pattern it becomes a totally different story but that's abit more extreme than most people want to go.
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| posted on October 31st, 2011 at 12:34 PM |
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it is my understanding that any decrease in track is illegal, as for the dropped spindles it will depend on your engineer, you could have one tested
and determin its failure point. it has been done on this forum already.
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