Board Logo
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
[ Total Views: 894 | Total Replies: 19 | Thread Id: 97868 ]
Author: Subject:  It sounds like a bird is chirping inside my rocker cover.
MemberMr Muppet
Commited Dubber
**


Avatar


Posts: 74
Threads: 6
Registered: November 21st, 2010
Member Is Offline

Location: Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )

posted on July 16th, 2012 at 07:13 PM
It sounds like a bird is chirping inside my rocker cover.


Hi all, as the titles states there is a chirping noise coming frome around my rocker cover or side of the engine. It sounds like it squeaks on each turn (stroke) of the engine and it only comes from one side. Wound anyone have any ideas? Oh yeah, it's a type1 1915 .
MemberSides
A.k.a.: Dave Sidery
Veteran Volks Folk
*****


Avatar


Posts: 2220
Threads: 59
Registered: May 20th, 2007
Member Is Offline

Location: Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: Need... more... shed... time...

posted on July 16th, 2012 at 07:35 PM



Hmm... louder above or below the engine ???

If louder from above then I'd say intake manifold leak (check they're tight, boots are good etc.). If you've got twins check that the carb on that side doesn't wobble at all - sign of a loose or possibly even cracked manifold.

If louder from below it's something a bit more serious... like possibly a rocker issue.




VWDCQ vice pres & web dude - vwdcqinc.org.au
Join a car club - get car peeps

My toys
'70 Hillclimb Bug 'Jezebel' w/- Haltech EFI - http://bit.ly/VwTNtQ 
'60 KG Coupe - resto kinda started
01 New Beetle - gf's car, but I turn the spanners
MemberMr Muppet
Commited Dubber
**


Avatar


Posts: 74
Threads: 6
Registered: November 21st, 2010
Member Is Offline

Location: Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )

posted on July 16th, 2012 at 07:54 PM



Thanks Sides, it's really hard to pinpoint the area it's coming from. Say it was the rockers, what could it be?
Membershokwave2
A.k.a.: Matt Hamilton
Officially Full-On Dubber
***


Avatar


Posts: 289
Threads: 28
Registered: March 7th, 2010
Member Is Offline

Theme: UltimaBB Psyche Blue

posted on July 16th, 2012 at 08:22 PM



Pushrod scraping the inside of the Pushrod tube? Also check the pulley tin, that makes a chirping sound if it's bent and touching the pulley.
MemberMr Muppet
Commited Dubber
**


Avatar


Posts: 74
Threads: 6
Registered: November 21st, 2010
Member Is Offline

Location: Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )

posted on July 16th, 2012 at 08:42 PM



Pushrod tube is something that was thrown around, it's interesting you said that. Cheers for your input.
Memberbajachris88
A.k.a.: Chris Leete
23 Windows of Awesome
The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 672.
********


Avatar


Posts: 6661
Threads: 534
Registered: April 8th, 2005
Member Is Offline

Location: Tanah Merah, SE-QLD
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: A bee bit ma' bottom, now ma' bottom's big!

posted on July 16th, 2012 at 08:46 PM



haha, positive it isn't a little bird stuck down there? :lol:



(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. :tu:
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
MemberMr Muppet
Commited Dubber
**


Avatar


Posts: 74
Threads: 6
Registered: November 21st, 2010
Member Is Offline

Location: Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )

posted on July 16th, 2012 at 08:59 PM



Haha, I heard somewhere that a finch will give you an extra 5hp at the wheels.
Member68AutoBug
A.k.a.: Lee Noonan
Aircooled Master
Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138% - YIKES --
**********


Avatar


Posts: 11654
Threads: 449
Registered: August 31st, 2002
Member Is Offline

Location: SCONE in UPPER HUNTER VALLEY NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Yellow
Mood: Really Mentally Ill - all of the time -

posted on July 16th, 2012 at 10:33 PM



Quote:
Originally posted by Mr Muppet
Hi all, as the titles states there is a chirping noise coming frome around my rocker cover or side of the engine. It sounds like it squeaks on each turn (stroke) of the engine and it only comes from one side. Wound anyone have any ideas? Oh yeah, it's a type1 1915 .


Yes, My first thoughts are tinware around the crankshaft pulley
it is very close to the pulley, and if You have an aftermarket degree'd pulley You normally have to grind a bit of the tinware behind the pulley away...
for clearance..

also the fan can rub on the fan housing too...

of course these are a long way from the tappet cover...
maybe the pushrod tube ??
although they shouldn't be bent and should have lots of oil flowing thru them...

LEE




- [size=4]Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY--- [/size]
Membervwo60
Veteran Volks Folk
*****


Avatar


Posts: 2036
Threads: 71
Registered: February 13th, 2007
Member Is Offline

Location: Pomona Qld
Theme: UltimaBB Psyche Blue
Mood: good

posted on July 17th, 2012 at 08:26 AM



Could be a loose head, turn the engine over without the ignition connected and have some one listen to that side of the engine. the noise is comming from that area.
MemberBRUTUS
A.k.a.: et tu, Brute
Officially Full-On Dubber
***


Avatar


Posts: 255
Threads: 17
Registered: February 8th, 2006
Member Is Offline

Location: Brutus has retyred
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Grey
Mood: ACE 30 FOR SALE!

posted on July 17th, 2012 at 04:53 PM



We had a funny higher-pitched chirp from one side of a standard 1600 type 1 engine once. It turned out to be one of the WAVEY washers being broken across in the middle. This was impossible to find just by looking, as it all stays in place. There is a standard washer, then the wavey one, then a standard one (between the rocker arm and the spacer or block-thingy). If you grab each rocker arm and wobble it sideways, Left to right... if one moves, the wavey washer next to it may be broken. You may need the rocker arm to be loose to check this, ie. not pushing the valve down (just turn the engine over a bit). This assumes you have the standard-type rocker setup.



ACE 30 & 40 oils: specifically engineered for your Air Cooled VW
delivered (free del.) throughout Yarra Valley / Ranges, & Gippsland areas. Also ACE 20, 50 & 90.
FOR SALE: ACE 30, 40 etc. Oil formulations & Trade-names.
Super Moderatormatberry
Super Moderator
Go hard or go home
*******

Rank Avatar

Avatar


Posts: 8114
Threads: 134
Registered: March 7th, 2006
Member Is Offline

Location: Cooroy Qld
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: enjoying waving at all my Kombi buddies from my T3

posted on July 17th, 2012 at 05:04 PM



If the noise is louder at idle or engine over-run, it'll be an inlet manifold leak or loose head, most likely manifold unless it has an unusually fitted head gasket.



Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/20032011354-2.jpg
MemberSides
A.k.a.: Dave Sidery
Veteran Volks Folk
*****


Avatar


Posts: 2220
Threads: 59
Registered: May 20th, 2007
Member Is Offline

Location: Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: Need... more... shed... time...

posted on July 17th, 2012 at 06:02 PM



Yeah, rocker wise I was thinking around issues with the washers... too much side play is a clack, and I've heard too little give a squeak/squeal.

My money is on it being a manifold leak tho...

:tu:




VWDCQ vice pres & web dude - vwdcqinc.org.au
Join a car club - get car peeps

My toys
'70 Hillclimb Bug 'Jezebel' w/- Haltech EFI - http://bit.ly/VwTNtQ 
'60 KG Coupe - resto kinda started
01 New Beetle - gf's car, but I turn the spanners
MemberMr Muppet
Commited Dubber
**


Avatar


Posts: 74
Threads: 6
Registered: November 21st, 2010
Member Is Offline

Location: Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )

posted on July 17th, 2012 at 07:19 PM



Thanks guys for the useful info, its now a process of elimination. It seems to be most prominent at idle, not so much above 2.5 grand.

The biggest question though, is would I get down to Valla and back?
Super Moderatormatberry
Super Moderator
Go hard or go home
*******

Rank Avatar

Avatar


Posts: 8114
Threads: 134
Registered: March 7th, 2006
Member Is Offline

Location: Cooroy Qld
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: enjoying waving at all my Kombi buddies from my T3

posted on July 17th, 2012 at 07:27 PM



If it's an inlet manifold leak, you must fix it before driving ANY distance. Running lean will cause engine damage.



Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/20032011354-2.jpg
MemberSmiley
A.k.a.: Daniel Stephens
Veteran Volks Folk
*****


Avatar


Posts: 2125
Threads: 110
Registered: October 29th, 2008
Member Is Offline

Location: Yeppoon, Central Queensland
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: Synchro'd

posted on July 17th, 2012 at 07:28 PM



Quote:
Originally posted by Mr Muppet
The biggest question though, is would I get down to Valla and back?


That's over 2 weeks away!! You have plenty of time to get it fixed well before then.



Smiley :)




If you said I was a Volkswagen man, you'd be right.
MemberMr Muppet
Commited Dubber
**


Avatar


Posts: 74
Threads: 6
Registered: November 21st, 2010
Member Is Offline

Location: Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )

posted on July 17th, 2012 at 07:40 PM



Thats all I need to know, Im working the next two Saturday and Sunday's which means no days off till Valla .
Im going into the shed right now.
Membertar76
Custom Title Time!
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1622
Threads: 95
Registered: December 18th, 2009
Member Is Offline

Location: Ningi Qld
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: Rollin with The Dub Collective

posted on July 17th, 2012 at 07:42 PM



Quote:
Originally posted by Mr Muppet
Thats all I need to know, Im working the next two Saturday and Sunday's which means no days off till Valla .
Im going into the shed right now.


go hard mate get that bad boy ready for Valla.




"Obey your Dreams"!


62 Std beetle.
65 11 wnd Split "The Cross".
6? coming very soon!!!!
MemberMr Muppet
Commited Dubber
**


Avatar


Posts: 74
Threads: 6
Registered: November 21st, 2010
Member Is Offline

Location: Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )

posted on July 17th, 2012 at 10:25 PM



SUCCESS.
It was the intake manifold(Weber IDF) . It seemed quite ridged to the touch, but it was the rear nut that was
one turn off being tight.
Thanks for the advice, good peoples.
Super Moderatormatberry
Super Moderator
Go hard or go home
*******

Rank Avatar

Avatar


Posts: 8114
Threads: 134
Registered: March 7th, 2006
Member Is Offline

Location: Cooroy Qld
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: enjoying waving at all my Kombi buddies from my T3

posted on July 17th, 2012 at 10:27 PM



:D



Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/20032011354-2.jpg
MemberSides
A.k.a.: Dave Sidery
Veteran Volks Folk
*****


Avatar


Posts: 2220
Threads: 59
Registered: May 20th, 2007
Member Is Offline

Location: Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: Need... more... shed... time...

posted on July 18th, 2012 at 08:40 PM



Nice work - good you got it sorted.

Do Matt and I score a prize for picking it ???

:lol:




VWDCQ vice pres & web dude - vwdcqinc.org.au
Join a car club - get car peeps

My toys
'70 Hillclimb Bug 'Jezebel' w/- Haltech EFI - http://bit.ly/VwTNtQ 
'60 KG Coupe - resto kinda started
01 New Beetle - gf's car, but I turn the spanners


  Go To Top


Powered by GaiaBB, © 2011 The GaiaBB Group
(C) 2001-2024 Aussieveedubbers

[ Queries: 40 ] [ PHP: 2.6% - SQL: 97.4% ]