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BeetleNBus Casual Dubber

35 posts · joined Jan 2014 ·

#1002022
All righty folks

I must admit I am completely and utterly confused. I understand that all options are going to need to go to an engineer to be plated, however from reading this site and others and talking to different shops there are so many different opinions on which are good, which are not....

I am wanting to put disc brakes on my 63 beetle with a 2" narrowed beam (no dropped spindles)

From my reading CSP appear to have the best reputation, but I have then read that some engineers won't sign off on them cos they have alloy discs. Not sure if this is correct or not.

I know some places make their own? Can anyone please help steer me in the right direction or share their own experiences with different brands, especially ppl in Qld with getting them engineered?

Thx all.

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#1002023
Find an engineer and talk to him and see what "your" engineer will sign off

What one engineer signs off dosent mean another will

Are you wanting to keep wide 5?

As far as I know, the Vintage Vee Dub system has been passed by many an engineer

Otherwise standard VW 4 bolt would have no problems being signed off
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BeetleNBus Casual Dubber

35 posts · joined Jan 2014 ·

#1002025
Thx for the reply. That's where it gets confusing. Surely all engineers should be working to the same set of standards. Not just what they are happy to sign off on. It makes it seem subjective rather than objective.

There also must be some engineers who are most understanding of VW's and what components are used etc.?

Yes I am keeping the wide 5 patten as I have imported me a me a set of RDW mags.

karmann141 Wolfsburg Wizard

485 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#1002029
Bizarre wrote:Find an engineer and talk to him and see what "your" engineer will sign off
As above.

It's not just a matter of the engineer signing off on the brakes. He has to look at the components used, inspect the installation and then test the braking efficiency.

At the end of the day it's his neck on the line if you have an accident and it was determined it was the result of the braking system failing. Some engineers are willing to wear more risk than others.
Using OEM parts makes the process easier.
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vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#1002086
As far as i know CSP brakes do not have alloy rotors, as above try to use a approved caliper to start with, dual curcuit master cylinder will be required, a good engineer will calculate if the caliper will be suitable to use with the standard displacement master cylinder, this is how i did when i made my own disign four wheel disc set up and had it approved by an engineer not an approval station which seam to approve anything.

66deluxe Custom Title Time!

1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#1002125
I have a set of vvds wide five disc brake kit that i no longer intend to use. $500 and their yours.
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57oval Officially Full-On Dubber

305 posts · joined Oct 2006 ·

#1002160
66deluxe wrote:I have a set of vvds wide five disc brake kit that i no longer intend to use. $500 and their yours.
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66deluxe Custom Title Time!

1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#1002164
57oval wrote:
66deluxe wrote:I have a set of vvds wide five disc brake kit that i no longer intend to use. $500 and their yours.
PM sent
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57oval Officially Full-On Dubber

305 posts · joined Oct 2006 ·

#1002198
66deluxe wrote:
57oval wrote:
66deluxe wrote:I have a set of vvds wide five disc brake kit that i no longer intend to use. $500 and their yours.
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