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vinsueball Commited Dubber

60 posts · joined Apr 2012 · 12 Dec 2014, 6:23 am

#1005097

Reposted from another section.

Tell me if I'm wrong but from what I see on the web, beetle engine numbers with the 'B' prefix are supposed to be 1600cc......is that correct ?

So, the chrome emblem on the engine cover of my 1970 bug keeps telling me it's a 1300 !!......script VW1300 emblem !! Looks like the previous owner has either swapped out the original 1300 motor or it's had a rear shunt at sometime and they've replaced the whole engine cover with one from a 1300. I suspect the later as the 'under paint' was bright metallic green when we scraped it back to repaint !

Can anyone tell me, if this engine number indicates that it's a 1600cc, what type of emblem I'd expect to see on the rear lid ? Is it VW1600 or Volkswagen....................I'd like to get hold of whatever should be there !

If anybody can help, I'd appreciate it.

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 12 Dec 2014, 7:59 am

#1005104

There was 2 model bugs sold in aus in 70, 1300 and 1500.

The 1300s had F single ports and drum front brakes and 1500s which had H single ports and disc front brakes.

1300s also had no window rubber chrome, door arm rests or rear oh shit straps but much of that could have been changed over the years.

B engines were the 1600 single port which we didnt get in bugs, possibly late 60s kombis though, but it will have the hanger mounting points if its a kombi engine.

vinsueball Commited Dubber

60 posts · joined Apr 2012 · 13 Dec 2014, 4:12 pm

#1005177

Thanks Joel..........but now I'm even more confused. When I got this bug it had drum brakes all round but it also had chrome inserts in the windscreen rubbers but no arm rests or straps. The motor in this unit is certainly a "B" prefix motor though.

helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 13 Dec 2014, 6:06 pm

#1005195

We once had a 1970 1300. It had 4 wheel drums, beam front end, no armrests, no straps, no vents in the deck lid, 4" wide wheels, no bright trim on window rubbers, no crescent vents behind the back quarter windows, no fresh air vents on the dash. It was owned by a one owner old lady, so it was pretty original. Anything can be changed over the years though.

What do you want in your Beetle?

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Sunset Garage Officially Full-On Dubber

213 posts · joined Feb 2010 · 13 Dec 2014, 8:29 pm

#1005204

helbus wrote:We once had a 1970 1300. It had 4 wheel drums, beam front end, no armrests, no straps, no vents in the deck lid, 4" wide wheels, no bright trim on window rubbers, no crescent vents behind the back quarter windows, no fresh air vents on the dash. It was owned by a one owner old lady, so it was pretty original. Anything can be changed over the years though.

What do you want in your Beetle?

1970 didn't have crescent vents on any model. Too early for them, 71 was the first year for crescent vents. So they could hardly delete something that hadn't been introduced yet.

helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 13 Dec 2014, 9:56 pm

#1005209

I'm not saying they were deleted, I am just saying they were not there! Yeah?

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 14 Dec 2014, 9:21 am

#1005229

vinsueball wrote:Thanks Joel..........but now I'm even more confused. When I got this bug it had drum brakes all round but it also had chrome inserts in the windscreen rubbers but no arm rests or straps. The motor in this unit is certainly a "B" prefix motor though.

It's pretty unusual to see a VW still with its factory engine after 45 years.
Yours just has a 67-70 Kombi engine fitted, no biggy.

Anyway your bug is the 1300 pov spec,
I had 2 very original 1300s and just had a look at the pics and both have chrome strips in the front and rear window rubbers but not the side windows.

vinsueball Commited Dubber

60 posts · joined Apr 2012 · 15 Dec 2014, 9:12 pm

#1005356

Thanks again Joel, that would probably answer my confusion.

Hellbus, I'm just trying to get my bug running smoothly with what I've got at the moment. Having all kinds of fun acheiving that though. Car cranks OK with lots of battery power but won't fire up 2 out of 3 times. The time it does, it'll often just die on me. Even when I'm travelling at speed I'll just lose all power (as in electricity).....everything goes dead. Then suddenly it'll kick over again. Very disconcerting !!!!!!!!!! Had another distributor fitted a couple of weeks ago and it went really well after that...until last Sunday. At least it got me through my daughters wedding.