Bulkhead vs Framehead (Beetle)

Gaston Casual Dubber

26 posts · joined Sep 2015 · 27 Sep 2015, 4:31 pm

#1019299

Hello everyone,

If this question has already been answered just point me in the right direction and I'll be on my way. After failed attempts of trawling through the web I decided to hop onto a forum to try and get some more promising results.

So, my query is this. I am looking into buying a beetle and am just wondering what the bulkhead and framehead are exactly (pictures would be greatly appreciated), and how they fit into a VW beetle.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks ahead in advance,
Gaston.

I hand out apologies like beating-red apples... Since trees can only bear fruit if it's root is planted in the soil of sincerity.

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Sep 2015, 5:03 pm

#1019300

Welcome along, I think they are the same thing just different way of saying the same thing, the frame head is at the head of the chassis, just search Beetle frame head in Google. They don't often need to be replaced unless the chassis has serious rust or has had a crash

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Sep 2015, 5:07 pm

#1019301

ps bulk head could also be the firewall between the motor and inside of car or front suspension and inside the car, where are you seeing the these things written?

Gaston Casual Dubber

26 posts · joined Sep 2015 · 27 Sep 2015, 6:30 pm

#1019303

Hey steve,

Firstly thanks for your replying to my question. I now understand what the frame head (and consequently bulk head) is now, if they are the same thing.

Where I first saw "bulk head" written, which threw me off course, was in an article by John S. Henry here:
http://www.thebugshop.org/bsfqbyng.htm

To save you trawling through it here is the part where it is written:
"The "Solid" Beetle- Assessing the BODY

First and foremost, I look for rust in the "doomsday" places:
The heater channels
The front bulkhead area
The lower A-Pillar area."

I understand what and where to find the heater channels, learning (slowly) about this elusive "front bulkhead area" and will move onto next, which should be the easiest, the A-pillar.

Thanks,
Gaston.

I hand out apologies like beating-red apples... Since trees can only bear fruit if it's root is planted in the soil of sincerity.

59baja Learner Dubber

12 posts · joined Jan 2015 · 27 Sep 2015, 6:53 pm

#1019304

Maybe the section above the area known as the Napoleans hat, i have seen a few rusty ones and there is replacement metal for them.

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Sep 2015, 6:59 pm

#1019305

I reckon 59baja nailed it. Gaston what sort of VW are you looking for, some overseas websites can lead you astray

Gaston Casual Dubber

26 posts · joined Sep 2015 · 27 Sep 2015, 8:21 pm

#1019312

May I firstly just take the time to thank you both for replying (and thus consequently aiding me in my newly-found "educative" endeavour). It always warms my heart when people give up their time, even if it is for me, to help someone out, so thank you both for doing so.

Nevertheless, I take it the "Napoleon hat" is the red metal "hat" thing in the pictures (a quick "google" reaffirmed my suspicions). I like the fact that it is called a hat and will endeavor to ensure that whichever car I eventually buy has a lovely hat to wear as it tears down the highway. So thank you 59baja.

In reply to your question Steve, I don't have an eye out on anything yet. I am not really interested in the any of the older bugs, and so will leave them for the die-hard enthusiasts to fight over in their spare time. I'll most probably go for a '70's or later, or even a Super would be fine. Haven't started looking yet since I'm still deciding what to do. Nevertheless, Muir arrived yesterday and I hope to have that finished soon, so at least that's a tentative step towards finally having a Bug parked in the driveway, with a nice hat on hopefully.

Thanks for all your help,
Gaston.

I hand out apologies like beating-red apples... Since trees can only bear fruit if it's root is planted in the soil of sincerity.

beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 27 Sep 2015, 9:03 pm

#1019315

Love your sense of humour Gaston. If you do put a hat on your bug, you could call it 'Lee' (Kernigan), and maybe play 'Hat town' on the stereo.

Out of interest, where abouts are you? It will make it easier to let you know about bugs closer to where you are.

From your ole' mate Jeff

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Sep 2015, 9:14 pm

#1019320

Theres good looking semi auto for sale on here, so Gatson fill in your profile it does help

adlbeetle66 Under the car.........again!

1,476 posts · joined Aug 2014 · 27 Sep 2015, 9:55 pm

#1019325

FYI, we had a 76 flat screen bug - its was black with red bits on it. We called it 'Gaston' - named after the same show that your profile picture comes from ! 😂 😎

Gaston Casual Dubber

26 posts · joined Sep 2015 · 27 Sep 2015, 10:07 pm

#1019328

Beetleboyjeff, if I do that, let's hope he doesn't make a song called "Pass my hat"... Because then I'll be in trouble.

As for you Steve, I think I'll be more inclined on buying a manual than an auto, but thanks for that. I've filled in my profile also, so thanks for cajoling me to do so, since it would help me in the long run.

As for you adlbeetle66, I'm elated you got my reference. I just adore that little lady bird and how he growls and barks (much like all the other ones).

On a final note may I just say thank you. You've all been so kind, helping and welcoming. Your compliments lift my spirit and are always eager (as far as I've seen) to aid that "learner dubber". So enjoy my signature (I think it should work...), since there will be a lot more apples coming your way.

I hand out apologies like beating-red apples... Since trees can only bear fruit if it's root is planted in the soil of sincerity.

Gaston Casual Dubber

26 posts · joined Sep 2015 · 28 Sep 2015, 12:20 am

#1019330

Signature once I get it working: I hand out apologies like heart-red apples... Since trees can only bear fruit if it's root is planted in the soil of sincerity.

I hand out apologies like beating-red apples... Since trees can only bear fruit if it's root is planted in the soil of sincerity.

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 · 28 Sep 2015, 7:07 pm

#1019371

The bulkhead is what is commonly referred to as the section of bodyshell that sits ontop of the floorpans nelson hat. As pictured above.

The framehead is the front section of the floorpan that the front beam suspension bolts too. Hopefully linked here Beetle framehead

madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

Gaston Casual Dubber

26 posts · joined Sep 2015 · 28 Sep 2015, 7:15 pm

#1019372

Hey psimitar,

I tracked down the blog I think you got the picture from here (by using certain words from your link:
http://www.volksworld.com/blog/staff-blogs/james-blog/project-66-the-welding-continues-10918

From there I was able to determine what was what, from your description and from the above "hat". Thanks for further clarifying that and I wish you all the best,
Gaston.

I hand out apologies like beating-red apples... Since trees can only bear fruit if it's root is planted in the soil of sincerity.

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 · 30 Sep 2015, 5:59 pm

#1019445

Gaston wrote:Hey psimitar,

I tracked down the blog I think you got the picture from here (by using certain words from your link:
http://www.volksworld.com/blog/staff-blogs/james-blog/project-66-the-welding-continues-10918

From there I was able to determine what was what, from your description and from the above "hat". Thanks for further clarifying that and I wish you all the best,
Gaston.

Sorry I didn't spot the link hadn't worked properly but glad you figured it out 🙂

madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍