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aussie56 Learner Dubber

6 posts · joined Dec 2015 ·

#1025303
Hi All

Still new the the beetle scene and slowly getting thru my part resto.

Wanted to put a passenger side mr or on my 1970 beetle but there is no hole or threaded hole. Is this something that was only available on later models?

Not sure I want to drill a hole in the door.

Thanks

Adam

beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#1025307
I believe they often put the thread in the door, but didn't put the hole in the outside metal. Could you have a look up inside the door with a fibre-optic camera and see?
From your ole' mate Jeff

AA003 Custom Title Time!

1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 ·

#1025308
You used to buy a mirror that came with a nut. Just drill through the door and put the nut on the inside.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!😂

helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#1025310
Our Beetle has the LH thread on the door. The replacement mirror is totally useless, as they are made to suit LH drive vehicles. I got a Wolfsburg West, and the actual quality of the mirrors was good, just the angle of the LH arm means you cannot see anything out of it. There was no original mirror, just a plug, so nothing to recondition. I would assume that a genuine RH drive LH door mirror would be hard to get.
If you are wondiring why LHD and RHD mirrors would be different, just think about your seating position and where you are looking through the quarter vent window. It is a different angle on each side.
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beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#1025314
My passenger side mirror works fine
From your ole' mate Jeff

bushed Wolfsburg Elder

3,541 posts · joined Dec 2006 ·

#1025317
tis all in the adjustment
want any vw bits old but like me, Made in Germany!!!

helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#1025318
Well my LH Wolfsburg West mirror is placed forward almost past the A pillar and has almost no visability. The arm is very short and cannot be adjusted in any way that allows the RHD driver to see much at all.

The RH mirror on mine has a longer arm. It means the mirror is slightly blocked by the pillar of the RH quarter vent window, and if the LH mirror had the longer arm it would be visable. So it is not just in the adjustment if the arms are the wrong length.

So it seems a RHD Beetle has short arm RH mirror and long arm LH mirror.

LHD Beetle has long arm RH mirror and short arm LH mirror.

They are different arm castings, so the RHD ones seem to be harder to get.

Like trying to get RHD steering boxes or RHD sunvisors with the mirror on the LH passener side.
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beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#1025319
I used to have a short armed mirror on the drivers side, but now have a long arm. I have a long arm on the passenger side. I haven't had problems with any of them. I do a lot of reversing, and much of it with a trailer on, so I use them a LOT.

I have had several long arm passenger side mirrors, and have not had any trouble getting them in the past.
From your ole' mate Jeff

vinsueball Commited Dubber

60 posts · joined Apr 2012 ·

#1025346
G'day,
I've just finished a resto on a 70 bug and also fitted a passenger side external mirror. I had a guy (wh actually did the panel work) actually weld the required nut in place behind the door skin. Wasn't one there when we went looking.

Take note of the comments about how good they actually work. While I won't argue with beetleboyjeff, my passenger mirror is pretty hopeless...........perhaps he's got the different type then I do so have a good look around. It takes me ages to get it to a spot where I can actually use it and then the passenger opens the quarter glass and all I see is the lock and frame of the quarter glass 🤓...........either that or some idiot walks down the side of the bug and bumps it out of line 😬 😬 🤓

helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#1025348
I must have the wrong type. If I sit in the drivers seat I can only see about half of the passenger mirror, and that is if I lean over to the passenger side. Can someone please give a supplier and part number for the correct one, and good quality. The ones I have now are excellent quality stainless steel back with good chrome. Wolfsburg West brand.
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modnrod Fahrvergnugen

978 posts · joined Mar 2011 ·

#1025359
I don't know this for sure, so it's not a recommendation just a suggestion, but since Flat Four Japan come from a RHD country, and their products are generally regarded as amongst the best (definitely for the parts I have bought from them), perhaps that might be an avenue to explore.

https://www.flat4.co.jp/english/dtail-bd.html#BD-706

aussie56 Learner Dubber

6 posts · joined Dec 2015 ·

#1025366
Thanks all

I'll borrow a mates camera and check inside the door.

If it's not worth it I might just put a peep mirror towards the top of the door.

beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#1025376
Here are some photos of my mirrors.
Here is the view out of the drivers mirror:



and here is the view out of the passenger side mirror:



Here are 2 photos of the type of mirror I have on the passengers side:





I hope this helps.
From your ole' mate Jeff

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#1025384
Hi

I had to put a mirror thread in my drivers door in my orange Beetle as the previous owner had to have a new door fitted and the only one he could get didn't have a mirror hole but did have an intrusion bar.

It just took a bit of careful measurement to get the hole in the correct place.

A LHD right mirror isn't a critical for its viewing angle as a LHD left mirror.

Maybe VW Heritage have RHD left mirrors?

Steve

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#1025403
Beetleboyjeff- that LH mirror of yours looks exactly like one I took from a 73 Bus I stripped once. Pretty sure I still have it somewhere.

beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#1025405
I am pretty sure I got it from either VVS or Volksbahn, but I have had similar ones before.
From your ole' mate Jeff

pv370 Officially Full-On Dubber

272 posts · joined Apr 2014 ·

#1025423
could be late type 3 mirrors as they have the longer arm with the bend in it just like on jeffs beetle.