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BlasterTheRedBajaBug Wolfsburg Wizard

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 ·

#1035326
I am buying a Subaru Outback for an engine to put in Blaster,
I have now come across a problem, do I use the Subaru ECU or an after market one?
Thanks in advance,
Michael
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BlasterTheRedBajaBug Wolfsburg Wizard

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 ·

#1035332
Ok thanks that helps a lot and saves me a fair bit too.
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binner Fahrvergnugen

981 posts · joined Jan 2010 ·

#1035333
you may need one of these.... I make them to order 😎

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binner Fahrvergnugen

981 posts · joined Jan 2010 ·

#1035334
ohh and I have a complete subi EJ22 and wiring harness already stripped down with matching ECU for sale if you want.... I was about to start working on it.
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BlasterTheRedBajaBug Wolfsburg Wizard

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 ·

#1035336
Thanks for the offer but I have now bought a whole car for the wiring and engine as well as the ecu, What exactly does the thing I may need do? (Not my field of knowledge 🤪)
Cheers
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binner Fahrvergnugen

981 posts · joined Jan 2010 ·

#1035339
^^^^^^^^^^^^ it makes it go faster............... 😎







it reverses the throttle body so it doesnt smack into yr firewall, or you could just hack out your firewall and not bother with one...
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BlasterTheRedBajaBug Wolfsburg Wizard

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 ·

#1035341
Oh ok I don't think I will need one as the firewall in my car has already been moved forward from when it had an EA82 in it.
Thanks anyway.
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BlasterTheRedBajaBug Wolfsburg Wizard

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 ·

#1035343
Ok so I have now come across another problem, would I still be able to keep the stock ecu if I was to run E85 fuel or not as where I live I can get it from the pump and it is up to 45 cents cheaper at times compared to 91, 95 or 98 octane.
Cheers
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mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#1035345
Leave the E85 to the cars that are designed for it from factory, it will end up costing you more than you can save at the bowser. You would need to work on the fuel system as well as the ecu and that is if the engine can even take using E85. KISS principle.
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BlasterTheRedBajaBug Wolfsburg Wizard

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 ·

#1035346
I know that you can run the engine I bought on E85 but you needed to change fuel lines and put a flex fuel sensor on it but I don't know if I needed to change the ecu or not.
If it helps I bought an EJ25 from a subaru outback.
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binner Fahrvergnugen

981 posts · joined Jan 2010 ·

#1035349
just use the complete 25 that you bought , that way the ECU works with the engine and you won't have any dramas down the track, tip,...... unless you have paperwork showing timing belt work done recently throw the sucker in. if not its wise to do it all while its on a work bench.... then you have peace of mind
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binner Fahrvergnugen

981 posts · joined Jan 2010 ·

#1035352
mackaymanx wrote:Head gaskets too the Ej25 had problems with them
sorry typo, i meant EJ22 engine
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BlasterTheRedBajaBug Wolfsburg Wizard

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 ·

#1035353
I have been told not to touch the 22s but 20s and 25s are my favourite anyway.
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binner Fahrvergnugen

981 posts · joined Jan 2010 ·

#1035354
who told you that shit!!....
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BlasterTheRedBajaBug Wolfsburg Wizard

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 ·

#1035355
Well my brother is a suby freak and he said best thing to do with them is sell them to the boat yard for anchors.
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BlasterTheRedBajaBug Wolfsburg Wizard

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 ·

#1035357
I don't like the 22's as the seals in the pain in the arse spots are the ones that go the most
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BlasterTheRedBajaBug Wolfsburg Wizard

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 ·

#1035358
Back to ecus' in the interest of cheap I will use the stock one just to get him on the road and drive-able to work any kinks and what not but eventually I will convert to an aftermarket ecu from haltech with flex fuel so I can run E85 as it is considerably cheaper and it burns cleaner in the engine but you use more of it so what you save on buying it you lose in having to refuel more often.
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Mitchvwnut Seriously Crusin Dubber

103 posts · joined Dec 2013 ·

#1035360
Yeah head gaskets are an issue on the ej25 and do the timing belt or shit will get expensive pretty quick If it snaps.
I personally would stick to the standard ECU and save the money. As standard it should be plenty of power in a bug.
Is it the quad cam or a SOHC??
What gearbox are you using??
- Feb '55 beetle
- '89 transporter - EJ25 engine & gearbox

BlasterTheRedBajaBug Wolfsburg Wizard

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 ·

#1035363
Mitchvwnut wrote:Yeah head gaskets are an issue on the ej25 and do the timing belt or shit will get expensive pretty quick If it snaps.
I personally would stick to the standard ECU and save the money. As standard it should be plenty of power in a bug.
Is it the quad cam or a SOHC??
What gearbox are you using??
I have got the entire car booked in to get the engine looked at at the mechanics to change all the fluids do the timing etc. It is a DOHC motor the same as a Forester but it isn't turbo-ed as I can't drive a turbo on my L's or P's. Haltech do have a map-able plug and play unit which uses the standard wiring and it can run flex fuel so I may be doing that in the future. In regards to gearbox I am getting the standard one rebuilt at the moment so it hasn't got 50 years of crud in it.
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Bone Officially Full-On Dubber

299 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#1035381
Anyone who says a EJ22 is just a boat anchor may not know as much as one thinks!
Use stock ECU. I cant fault a basic Ej22 in a Bug.
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ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#1035616
Plus as you're on the Sunny Coast Sunspares in Yandina say to run non-turbos on 95 octane and not to go near the E pump.

ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#1035617
BTW my sons baja has his radiator above the engine and so far hasn't experienced any downsides to it. He does have the cowl fitted but away from the body so it sort of acts like a scoop around the aluminium radiator.

BlasterTheRedBajaBug Wolfsburg Wizard

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 ·

#1035673
Well after a few weeks of debate I have decided it is in my best interests to go with an air-cooled motor, as it is what I know and what is easiest for me to work on as I plan to service the car.
I will do a full write up on my reasons in another thread so it is better for future users to find and use.
Thanks
Michael
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