4 Lug to 5 Lug conversion

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 · 23 Jul 2017, 6:36 pm

#1036884

Is it even possible? How much roughly am I looking at. Pros and cons.
Thanks

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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 · 23 Jul 2017, 6:48 pm

#1036886

Do you mean wide 5 with PCD of 205mm or later 5 lug with a PCD of 113mm IIRC? Porsche 5 lug pattern maybe.

Just cos there are different approaches for each conversion.

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BlasterTheRedBajaBug Wolfsburg Wizard

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 · 23 Jul 2017, 8:58 pm

#1036891

5x205 is what I would like to run.
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 24 Jul 2017, 12:37 am

#1036895

you will need a steel adaptor plate made x 4 probally bout 15mm thick

it has been done before and will widen your track check some of the shops they may have the adaptors

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

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mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 24 Jul 2017, 10:09 am

#1036899

What vehicle do you want to do?

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BlasterTheRedBajaBug Wolfsburg Wizard

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 · 24 Jul 2017, 8:53 pm

#1036909

I am looking at a buggy my uncle has for sale right now but it is 4 lug and the wheels I have that would look nice are 5's.

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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 24 Jul 2017, 10:56 pm

#1036913

the adaptors might cost you more to make or purchase

than a new set of wheels in 4 stud

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

KalgoorlieGreg Seriously Crusin Dubber

196 posts · joined Aug 2016 · 24 Jul 2017, 10:56 pm

#1036914

I have a set of wide 5 drum hubs (the outer part).

bushed Wolfsburg Elder

3,541 posts · joined Dec 2006 · 25 Jul 2017, 9:55 am

#1036918

I got 8x 4 studs you want
4 have a matching set off ok tyres all same brand
rears are wider than front
nice clean black paint no scuffs etc $120 for the best set
less for others
$20 spare?

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BlasterTheRedBajaBug Wolfsburg Wizard

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 · 27 Jul 2017, 1:11 am

#1036940

vw54 wrote:you will need a steel adaptor plate made x 4 probally bout 15mm thick

it has been done before and will widen your track check some of the shops they may have the adaptors

Is it legal to run adapters on a street car?
Last I check it wasn't, but it may have changed.

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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Jul 2017, 2:14 am

#1036941

Better check with the local authorities in QLD

laws vary state to state

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Jul 2017, 5:52 am

#1036942

BlasterTheRedBajaBug wrote:Is it legal to run adapters on a street car?
Last I check it wasn't, but it may have changed.

I will be amazed if it is legal

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bushed Wolfsburg Elder

3,541 posts · joined Dec 2006 · 27 Jul 2017, 9:00 am

#1036943

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f127/wheel-spacers-illegal-uninsurable-76191.html

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BlasterTheRedBajaBug Wolfsburg Wizard

444 posts · joined Nov 2016 · 27 Jul 2017, 10:03 am

#1036944

That is what I was thinking, I know that in the US they can run what ever they like so long as it doesn't affect the way the vehicle acts or something like that, I read about it a few months ago.

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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 27 Jul 2017, 10:52 am

#1036945

also have a look at the states compared to us. I've worked on equipment from both europe and the states. the europe assumes you have common sense and will say something like undo the 4 screws holding the mounting plate. where as the us one says take a number 2 phillips screw driver and slowly and carefully undo the screws each in turn and be careful not to drop them or the mounting plate.

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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 · 28 Jul 2017, 10:23 pm

#1036968

I was always told that adapters are illegal in Oz but the company I just started working for says that if the adapter is permanently bolted to the original hub then it become part of the hub and is compliant.
Wheel spacers are what are definitely illegal here.

Course you can do the rears without an adapter plate by buying blank drums n having them drilled for 205 PCD. If the front is disc then the adapter plate won't work anyway as pretty sure it'll hit on the caliper. I think Airkweld do a BJ wide 5 disc conversion. If the fronts are drums then do the same as for the rears 🙂

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AA003 Custom Title Time!

1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 · 29 Jul 2017, 6:49 am

#1036970

Adapters are always permanently bolted to the original hub. Otherwise your wheel will fall off.

I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

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psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 · 31 Jul 2017, 6:46 pm

#1037008

AA003 wrote:Adapters are always permanently bolted to the original hub. Otherwise your wheel will fall off.

Oh hardy har har!!!!

The OP may not be aware of the difference between an adapter plate and a wheel spacer? Spacers are defo illegal in Oz but supposedly an adapter plate is not due to being a permanent part of the hub.

Do you always have to be so obtuse?

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