Retractable Seat Belts

MeppW Learner Dubber

15 posts · joined Jul 2016 · 20 Jan 2018, 11:35 am

#1039303

Hey guys, just thought I would tap you knowledge here before I post in the to buy section. Wanting to see if it is possible to put retractable belts in a 72 type 3 Squareback( thanks Peter, car was in great body condition , rebuilt engine and just about to get it on the road)
Would prefer both front and rear if possible but at a stretch just the front would be great . Spoke to the guys at vintage see dub and they seemed to think that you need a set of 76 beetle brackets for the front and they weren't sure about the rears .
just wondering if anyone had any experience with this . thanks ,Will

beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 20 Jan 2018, 1:57 pm

#1039307

If you have a good Autobarn store (many others can probably do it too), get them to look up the Klippan brand seat belts - they had them for my 75 beetle, and I think they would be similar for your type 3. The only thing they may not have is the bottom bracket, but I could post a photo if you need to get it made, it is fairly simple.

From your ole' mate Jeff

pv370 Officially Full-On Dubber

272 posts · joined Apr 2014 · 20 Jan 2018, 2:04 pm

#1039308

Hey Will, looking forward to seeing some pics of the car.................

Cheers Peter

MeppW Learner Dubber

15 posts · joined Jul 2016 · 20 Jan 2018, 3:55 pm

#1039312

Pete, Got a lot of the resto, Will put some up soon .
Windscreen and tiny bit under battery were the only rust to deal with . She's looking good!

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MeppW Learner Dubber

15 posts · joined Jul 2016 · 20 Jan 2018, 3:57 pm

#1039313

Jeff, thanks for the info . I can get the belts , looking to get with webbing that matches seat upholstery . Its the bottom brackets I need . If you have some pics of yours that would be great , thanks , Will

binner Fahrvergnugen

981 posts · joined Jan 2010 · 20 Jan 2018, 5:10 pm

#1039314

vwheritage has it all, all colors too I think...

71 SQ

beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 20 Jan 2018, 6:52 pm

#1039317

MeppW wrote:Jeff, thanks for the info . I can get the belts , looking to get with webbing that matches seat upholstery . Its the bottom brackets I need . If you have some pics of yours that would be great , thanks , Will

The bottom brackets for a later beetle look like this. They basically turn the mount 90 degrees so the inertia reel is running the correct direction

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beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 20 Jan 2018, 6:55 pm

#1039318

beetleboyjeff wrote:
MeppW wrote:Jeff, thanks for the info . I can get the belts , looking to get with webbing that matches seat upholstery . Its the bottom brackets I need . If you have some pics of yours that would be great , thanks , Will
The bottom brackets for a later beetle look like this. They basically turn the mount 90 degrees so the inertia reel is running the correct direction

..... and this is what the reel looks like mounted in a late beetle

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wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard

680 posts · joined Feb 2013 · 20 Jan 2018, 8:52 pm

#1039321

Now the $64 question Jeff... Where do we find them?
I'd like some for the Notch and the Square as well.

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beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 20 Jan 2018, 9:27 pm

#1039324

They wouldn't be that hard to have made out of a piece of angle. If you need, I could take mine off and make a template of them for you.

From your ole' mate Jeff

MeppW Learner Dubber

15 posts · joined Jul 2016 · 21 Jan 2018, 9:49 am

#1039331

Jeff , If that would not be too much trouble , that would be great , Thanks , Will

pv370 Officially Full-On Dubber

272 posts · joined Apr 2014 · 21 Jan 2018, 10:58 am

#1039333

looking great Will..............
give me a call if you need any bits as i still have the graveyard.........
cheers Peter

beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 21 Jan 2018, 6:19 pm

#1039338

MeppW wrote:Jeff , If that would not be too much trouble , that would be great , Thanks , Will

I will try and do it tomorrow evening

From your ole' mate Jeff

wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard

680 posts · joined Feb 2013 · 21 Jan 2018, 8:42 pm

#1039341

Legend as always.
Got tonnes of heavy duty angle here... well maybe just a few bits but still.
Dimensioned plan would work great and can then make a template.
👍👍

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beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 23 Jan 2018, 9:40 pm

#1039348

beetleboyjeff wrote:
MeppW wrote:Jeff , If that would not be too much trouble , that would be great , Thanks , Will
I will try and do it tomorrow evening

Sorry about the extra day - I forgot I had a sailing club meeting last night.

Here is a PDF file I have scanned of the drawing I made when I traced the brackets and put measurements on it. The bracket is 3mm thick, and is out of 60 x 45 angle, although I doubt this is critical.

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beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 23 Jan 2018, 9:59 pm

#1039349

beetleboyjeff wrote:
beetleboyjeff wrote:
MeppW wrote:Jeff , If that would not be too much trouble , that would be great , Thanks , Will
I will try and do it tomorrow evening
Sorry about the extra day - I forgot I had a sailing club meeting last night.

Here is a PDF file I have scanned of the drawing I made when I traced the brackets and put measurements on it. The bracket is 3mm thick, and is out of 60 x 45 angle, although I doubt this is critical.

I also have 2 photos of the drawing with the bracket sitting on it to help orientate it, as well as the brand and part number that is stamped into it, if that is any help. There is also a spike that goes into a small hole above the seat belt bolt hole in the bottom of the B pillar, which I assume is to keep the reel level with the car - I am not sure how necessary this would be. Don't forget that this is the left hand side - the right hand side is mirror reversed as in the original photos I posted.

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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 24 Jan 2018, 3:12 pm

#1039352

vollks has the whole set up
3 point
https://www.vollks.com.au/store/Seat-belt-3-point-black-lap-chest-retractable-PAIR-bug-68-79-or-bus.html
or 2 point
https://www.vollks.com.au/store/Retractable-2-point-lap-style-seat-belt-universal.html

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Calcool Fahrvergnugen

965 posts · joined May 2005 · 8 Jul 2018, 2:44 pm

#1040609

I put retractable seat belts in my Karmann Ghia years ago I used the front seat belt brackets from a 70s Kombi and mounted them thru the floor. There are local seat belt suppliers who will make them to colour side and length as well as Australian compliant

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 10 Jul 2018, 6:45 pm

#1040618

Hi

CIP sell a pair of brackets http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C26-857-024

The seat belts that Jeffs car uses are not available anymore with the small bolt holes, you can only buy them with a conventional single large bolt hole.

MeppW Learner Dubber

15 posts · joined Jul 2016 · 23 Aug 2018, 2:22 pm

#1040897

Thanks guys for the responses . Got the brackets from CIP and Boris at Vintage Veedub had the belts made . Small thing but a lot more convenient!