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helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#103789
For the newer forum users, sometimes the codes get misunderstood or misused.

Most know, but for those that don't this may help.

Type 1 is all beetles.

Type 1 motor is smaller up 1600cc motor used in Beetles, Country buggies, Karmann Ghia's, Type 3's, T1 kombies and early T2 kombies

Type 2 is all "Kombies" including busses, utes, panelvans.

Type 3 is fastback, squareback, notchback.

Type 4 is strange vehicle we didn't get much of here. - picture someone?

Type 4 motor is larger 1700cc- 2000cc motor used in Later T2 kombies.

T1 is all split screen type 2 up to '67

T2 is all bay or curvy screen type 2 '68-'79

T3 is wedge screen 'squarer style' or Vanagon.

T4 is The newer generation VW vans

Correct me here guys if I am wrong, but the 'T' may be for Transporter?

There is more detail and a lot of pics needed to eplain the minor differences, but I just wanted to at least distinguish that there is a difference between T1, type 1, T2, type 2
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65square Seriously Crusin Dubber

191 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#103806
Type 3 engine is different to type 1 as well. Type 1's have upright fans, Type 3 has the fan mounted on the front of the engine.
Heres a cool type 4😎

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Flying VW Wolfsburg Wizard

680 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#103858
Yeah but if you take all that shit off they are the same. 🙂
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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#103880
Type 3 engines are unique in that they will keep running without a fan belt, as the Fan is located on the end of the crankshaft.
Type 4's as in 411 & 412 were sold in NZ -New Guinea & south Africa in RHD but were never sold here... they were available as 2 & 4 door models., fastback & squareback (Variant) models... Simon Glen in Toowoomba has a restored model 411...
Do type 4 engines have the fan on the end of the crankshaft also??
Thats a nice pic of a customised 412 [variant] Squareback.
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vwtyp2 Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,504 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#103928
yes type 4 engines have the fan on the end of the crankshaft.
have a look in the back of an 1800 or 2 litre kombi.
it is however possible to do an "upright" conversion to a type 4 engine.
most commonly used with "sharpbuilt" style Porsche copy fan shrouds and Porsche fans.
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3toes Officially Full-On Dubber

253 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#103996
When were splits and bays ever called T1's or T2's. I have only ever heard this said in Oz. I know the type 25 is called a T3 here but when the split came out it was just the type2 not the T1 type 2 or the the type 2 T1.
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vwtyp2 Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,504 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#104392
maybe because the later models weren't made yet to reference to?
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11CAB If ya got it....Baja it

4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#104425
I've never heard the split kombi's called a T1, all kombis up to 1980 were known as type 2.
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4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#104429
The one that really bugs me is when people call the type 3 a T3.....:alien
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sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#104446
how bloody confusing🙁
🙂

Kai.A. Fahrvergnugen

915 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#104448
i don't think it's wrong to call a type 3 a t3, but then what you would call a t3 (wedge van) i would call a type 25.....

it appears that people in different countries have different ideas of whats what.....(i lived in the uk for the last 8 odd years)

is it really that important that everyone knows which code is 'correct' for each vehicle??? surely we all understand..... they are all vw's at the end of the day 😎

kai

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#104490
Just to add to the confusion

I "thought" the T3 was a water cooled vanagon (sorry Dave but it describes it best)

T2 Type 2's were the bay

I have an air cooled vanagon and i "thought" they were called T2.5's

Huh.... there all Volksies!
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KOM123 Smiling Assassin

1,164 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#104597
To satisfy my curiosity (ignorance) can someone please clarify (preferably with pics), the differences between fastback, squareback, and notchback.

Cheers 🙂

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#104603
Squareback

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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#104605
Notchback

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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#104606
Fastback

sorry for steeling pics whoever owned them 😀
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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#104607
bugger - forgot the pic

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KOM123 Smiling Assassin

1,164 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#104611
Thanks for clarifying!!!

sikdub Wolfsburg Wizard

571 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#104634
didnt Rhys (Kombi Kid) buy that fastback in the last pic?
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#104647
Barry
I "thought" the T3 was a water cooled vanagon (sorry Dave but it describes it best)
Thats OK mate cause thats exactly what there sold as in USA. No problems with that name only the other stupid term the poms use.
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

57kombi Hannover Elder

2,544 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#104650
Dave, next you will be saying that there is something wrong with calling a 23 deluxe a
lol
Dave

TheGermanFolks Officially Full-On Dubber

248 posts · joined Mar 2003 ·

#104741
LOL, you crazy kids. so do you guys call all spilttys, Kombi's?
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Black_math Blaupunkt

1,111 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#104751
Depends, we just call em kombis too lazy to name proply🙂

57kombi Hannover Elder

2,544 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#104827
German Folks

We basically call all type 2s kombi's, we know there are micros and panels and deluxes but in Oz all VW splits and bays are kombi's

Also for the newbies vw54 hates deluxes being called samba's, this has be going on since the forum started.
Recieved the WCM book thanks Dave.
Cheers
Dave

oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#104949
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Also for the newbies vw54 hates deluxes being called samba's, this has be going on since the forum started.
I also know Dave hates whitewalls and ugly accessories... care to clarify why?

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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#105007
I also know Dave hates whitewalls and ugly accessories... care to clarify why?
dont hate them all its just personal preference... but i do hate white walls as they all tend to fall off... the ones that are grooved into the tyre a good
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

Kombicol Officially Full-On Dubber

211 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#105069
sorry guys but if the purpose of this post was to clarify - it has backfired, i am more confused than ever,

but i feel ok about it coz it seems everyone else is too.

helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#105212
I can guarantee if you ring up a Volkswagen place and ask for a T3 part when you mean Type 3, they will be expecting you to be talking about a Caravelle/Vanagon/Wedge.

I just wanted to bring to light that a lot of people get confused on this issue, and I found it helpful to do a little research before calling our bus a T2, as it is not short for Type 2. 😀
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