Negative camber

lil bug Commited Dubber

54 posts · joined Oct 2003 · 5 Nov 2003, 9:48 pm

#108671

How can I get negative camber on the front end of a king and link bug... Is there a way or is Vernon destined to understeer now and then? :P

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 5 Nov 2003, 10:15 pm

#108677

Hi

No you cant do it because the linkpins need to run parralel.

1302Steve

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 6 Nov 2003, 6:34 am

#108700

Yes thats right

the best method is to pan swap or fit a ball joint front bulkhead and front end to your early chassis.

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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 6 Nov 2003, 1:56 pm

#108815

1 deg neg is about the limit before binding occurs. Increase your caster by putting some spacers between your front beam and the chassis (lower torsion tube), these can be purchased from our forum sponsors :thumb
This will effect the camber of the wheels when turning, when it is needed !

lil bug Commited Dubber

54 posts · joined Oct 2003 · 6 Nov 2003, 4:07 pm

#108871

Thanks... I thought I may be able to pack the bottom out with extra shims?

I already have castor spacers behind the lower torsion tube, this is to compensate for the change in attitude due to dropping the fornt end... I wonder how much I can increase the castor?

Thanks again guys.

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 6 Nov 2003, 6:42 pm

#108934

You only need to use the shims provided or else you get too much and a negative result.
Make sure they sit in the correct position on the torsion tube.

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70AutoStik Insano Dub Head

730 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 11 Nov 2003, 2:19 am

#110516

You can increase your castor by 5 degrees or more (using longer bolts and stacked shims,) but it sounds to me like you might have another problem.

Check your bearings and bushes by jacking the car up and setting it on jack-stands. With someone to watch you (for safety - if the car falls off the stands, you want it removed as quickly as possible,) grab the tyres and give them a good waggle. If anything feels loose or rattly, chase it down and replace it. Look for obviously bent componentss. Check the steering dampner.

If none of these lead to anything, it might be time to seek out a professional. Make sure to tell him of all you have done - if he dismisses them all, you might want to look further afield.

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 11 Nov 2003, 6:20 am

#110523

70AutoStik

You can increase your castor by 5 degrees or more (using longer bolts and stacked shims

Sorry you can NOT do this as the suspension will bind. the King and Link are designed to travel up n down in one plane, stacking the shims will only make the suspension tighter and cause it to bind easier

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lil bug Commited Dubber

54 posts · joined Oct 2003 · 11 Nov 2003, 4:53 pm

#110716

I know the ol king and link cannot get much neg camber... all the bearing and bushes are fine the steering dampner is new... there are no problems he just usdersteers a little when he is pushed through corners.

I'm just looking to improve the handling a bit.
Thanks for all the help guys 😀

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 11 Nov 2003, 5:26 pm

#110726

wot tyre pressure you running?

Can't do much more than that to the old link pin jobbies - and the more you try, the more the spindly little suspension arms flex and wobble around

Pay your debts, CxxT

fullnoise Fahrvergnugen

964 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 12 Nov 2003, 12:09 pm

#110956

Get softer front shocks
Get stiffer rear shocks
Add a sway bar to the rear
Get stiffer rear springs
Increase front toe-out
Increase rear toe-out

CYA, CT

esratrams

jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 12 Nov 2003, 6:06 pm

#111044

Best thing to do is rip the beam off & put some struts in it.................or just buy a Superbug!
Jak

Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

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16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Nov 2003, 6:56 pm

#111084

NO NO NO Jak.... struts Yuk....

Just drive it and enjoy it

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