1600 conversions

jonno-t3 Officially Full-On Dubber

289 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 1 Dec 2003, 10:22 am

#116743

hey all, just wondering what an EJ20t is and what its from and y its so good.
also, how far can u take the original air cooled 1600? i mean is it too expensive? does anyone make them go fast?
my dad told me they used to use VW in some speedway cars...so someone found a idea to make them go...cus speedways we're fast...

jonno

"if only everything in life was made like a volkswagen"

baybuscamperkid prince of insufficient light, ruler of heck

4,316 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 1 Dec 2003, 11:08 am

#116753

ej20t is the turbo ej20. i believe it is the 2l variant of the WRX motor. as far as i am concerned it is what VW would have done if they were still building flat 4s. loads of torque and horses, reliable, compact, but watercooled.

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vwrallycar Insano Dub Head

721 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 1 Dec 2003, 11:11 am

#116756

hi the ej20t is a subaru 2 litre flat four turbo. the motor is found in the WRX.
its around 160kw or 210hp standard so thats y they are awesome.
as for ur 1600 question you can take it as far as your wallet will allow and there are many top engine builders for them in this country.
the main reason people use the subaru motor or any other for that matter is simply horsepower vs the dollar.
e.g. $2500 for a ej20t = 210hp
$2500 for a vw aircooled flat four will not get you anywhere near that hp

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 1 Dec 2003, 2:19 pm

#116793

jonno-t3 wrote:my dad told me they used to use VW in some speedway cars...

They were based on vw motors, but had no vw parts. The speedway motors were generally scat or autocraft aftermarket serious $$$ motors.

$2500 would be lucky to get you a rebuilt 50HP stock vw motor.

Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

jonno-t3 Officially Full-On Dubber

289 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 1 Dec 2003, 3:11 pm

#116800

why so expensive??

jonno

"if only everything in life was made like a volkswagen"

tonyg Seriously Crusin Dubber

174 posts · joined Oct 2003 · 1 Dec 2003, 4:34 pm

#116824

Sorry to disagree with you Wes, Subaru is not based on VW flat 4. Fuji heavy industries, makers of subaru, used to build Jowett cars in Japan under licence to UK co (like Datsun used to do with British motor corp, british leyland). Obscure pommie make from 40's 50's. These had flat 4 watercooled engines back then. Subaru have since refined the concept more than a little. I have seen a Jowett Javelin (sportie type) and jowett Jupitor sedan when I was a kid. You know how datsun Bluebird (early stuff) and 120Y engines are based on BMC A series (morris minors and small austins etc( direct bolt in i think)
well same thing applies
best
tonyG

they took me away haha, hope the medication works

HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!

3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 1 Dec 2003, 5:31 pm

#116847

He means the speedway engines....

jonno-t3 Officially Full-On Dubber

289 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 1 Dec 2003, 7:21 pm

#116900

yeh....as in early sprint carts...

but stilll...why is it so expensive to do a 1600? couldn't u supercharge one to get horsepower?? i mean...technically u should be able to fit 2 of them shouldnt you?? but just for the sake of it...one small one...

jonno

"if only everything in life was made like a volkswagen"

koolkarmakombi enkarmarising

2,078 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 1 Dec 2003, 8:24 pm

#116925

Im with Wes on this. To make serious power with 30's technology = more serious $$$

Enter current 70 year later technology of ongoing refinement of those old ideas and you have bang for buck that is hard to beat.

There has been very few 'modern' ideas though. Mostly older patents/ideas that now work with modern alloys, ceramics and technology.

You will find many polarised views though :vader

Personally I would love to drop a scooby rex engine in my bus but it would be mutton dressed as lamb and the engine would be the most valuable bit of the whole thing.

kkk

kombi_kid Moderator Good Kid too many projects

124 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 2 Dec 2003, 7:18 am

#117085

an engine can alwaays be the most valuble thing in a kombi KKK ----its called RAT LOOK
cheers
rhys

it aint just cool its aircool'd

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 2 Dec 2003, 10:51 am

#117146

tonyg wrote:Sorry to disagree with you Wes, Subaru is not based on VW flat 4.

Yeah I meant the speedway engines not the subaru engines. :thumb

Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

baybuscamperkid prince of insufficient light, ruler of heck

4,316 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 2 Dec 2003, 5:11 pm

#117272

i agree with KKK. muy dream one day is a vortex flat6 for my bus, making it a sleeper in more ways then one!

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