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Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#119267
For those interested, These are the engine specs of my 2176 engine that ran at the dyno day.

Engine case is an Brazilian AS21, with std 8mm head studs.
Crank is an old Okrassa, with 78.4 stroke.
Rods are VW reworked by Pauter.
Cam is a berg GB316, 329 duration and 0.416' lift at the cam.
1.25 to 1 VW ratio rockers, on solid shafts.
Berg Chrome moly push rods.
Magnum straight cut gears.
Piston and barrell kit is 94mm 'B' kit.

Heads are old Street Eliminators that needed a lot of work, fly cut for 37cc chambers, 44x37.5 Manley stainless steel valves, Berg dual valve springs, compression is 10.8 to 1. The heads were done by Martin Francis

Carbs are 48 IDA's with 42mm chokes on tall manifolds, and a Berg linkage.

Fuel pump is from a 70's EFI Kombi with a Malpassi fuel pressure regulator.

Ignition is a Scintilla magneto, with a modified advance curve, and heavy leads.

Exhaust is 1 5/8 merged with a stinger or for the street a crappy nameless brand muffler to keep it quiet.


This is the engine case with crank and rods assembled.

Street Eliminator heads 44x37.5 valves

Exhaust port.

inlet ports.



This engine was built on the cheap, most parts were used, the cam, barrells, piston rings and valves were the only new parts used.
I got the crank for nuthin', It needed a grind. I swapped a set of used 044's for the street eliminators, Case came from Phil 74 kombi,s old beetle that was crashed. Most other parts were found at swapmeets. I put it together myself.
FAHRVERGNUGEN;
Description of a pleasurable sensation,
Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#119280
sweet :thumb


vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#119282
Nice work Dave, will you build an engine for my oval?

If you have about 8 to 10K then i carnt see it being a problem .... Thats if you purchase all the stuff new of the shelf.
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603


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byronbus dsk

4,204 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#119283
:thumb Didnt make it to Dyno Day but Dave's beetle was my favourite at Valla, was actually just saying that I admire Daves work...nice work all the same

I love the single cab as well
www.dsk.com.au

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#119296
Yes i realise that ... Beck does nice work

But thats the cost for a decent engine nowdays using new parts..

Makes you think dosent it... I aint got the funds to do it...
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,787 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#119316
Dave

What is the CR or deck height??
Futue te ipsum!!!

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#119342
blue74l wrote:Dave

What is the CR or deck height??
CR is 10.8 to 1


Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,787 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#119408
D'oh - just read Dave's post

Um.... thanks Craig 🙁
Futue te ipsum!!!

Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#119448
how do you find teh magneto ? I have one lying around I was going to try on my buggy .
Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx Australia

fullnoise Fahrvergnugen

964 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#119453
Mucho respect!

Dave you've obviously done a great job putting the engine together and getting the combo right. Well done.

Your car and your engine bay is also a credit to you.

You're a legend on the dyno and down the quarter.

It blows my mind that you're only a few horsepower behind Leigh's high tech turbo gadget.

CYA, CT
esratrams

Daniel Seriously Crusin Dubber

191 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#119456
What was your hp at the Dyno day?

Cam Custom Title Time!

1,535 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#119461
Awesome! The thing looks simply stunning. Pure eye candy for any aircooled lover 😎
You must be very proud, Dave. :thumb

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#119470
Cam wrote:Awesome! The thing looks simply stunning. Pure eye candy for any aircooled lover 😎
You must be very proud, Dave. :thumb
He should be proud, I have never seen one of Daves motor's not perform :thumb


Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#119548
geeezzz thanks guys,
It was a fun project, and when it performs better than you think, its an added bonus.
FAHRVERGNUGEN;
Description of a pleasurable sensation,
Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.

kombi_kid Moderator Good Kid too many projects

124 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#119559
so what was the HP produced?
cheers
rhys
p.s. that whole beetres is awesome gotta love it!
it aint just cool its aircool'd

splitbusaustralia Wolfsburg Wizard

487 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#119575
Gees,

I wonder what that puppy has at the flywheel?

When's the first teardown and inspection?

RobK

Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#119656
Rob, I had it apart last week to change the big end bearings after oil lighting it at Eastern Creek drags. Just a precaution, they did show signs of running without oil!:o, everything else was fine.

Rhys, it made 143.6 hp @5900rpm at the rear wheels.
FAHRVERGNUGEN;
Description of a pleasurable sensation,
Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.

kombi_kid Moderator Good Kid too many projects

124 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#119671
F@#$ing christ mate thats some serious power!!!! i will have to go for a drive with u next time ur up my way!!!
cheers
rhys
it aint just cool its aircool'd

Quoll Officially Full-On Dubber

232 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#119974
Man, that is one truly inspirational engine there good work! :thumb :thumb

:party

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#119984
GB315 is the same as a FK89 ??


OvalGlen Custom Title Time!

1,361 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#138896
Excellent Dave, just wondering what fuel
you run with that 10.8 : 1 compression..?
I would run AvGas, or can you run Prem UL.?
Regards,Glenn>

Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#140957
Nice:thumb
Just wondering at what revs does this beast make peak torque?


Andrew Grace

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#141081
Dave, is there any reason you did not have the case face's machined flat ??

This would make sure all barrells are parallel to the crank and that the bases are the equal distance from the case centreline.

Blue74 and 70 Autostik, have you worked out the Valve lift as a % of valve size 😀😀
Or should Dave be using 1.4's 😀😀


bugboymatt Custom Title Time!

1,405 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#141092
😀:thumb
Da Time For The Aircooled Revolution Is Upon US.
Brothers & Sisters Lets Hit The Streets, Roll As One. And Feel The Power Of The Aircooled Storm.

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,787 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#141426
Craig Torrens wrote:Blue74 and 70 Autostik, have you worked out the Valve lift as a % of valve size 😀😀
Or should Dave be using 1.4's 😀😀
Hmmm.... didnt think Dave was running stock heads :P

TTFN
Futue te ipsum!!!

Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#142603
Craig Torrens wrote:Dave, is there any reason you did not have the case face's machined flat ??

Craig, if you have a close look at the barrell seat you will see that it has been machined, all the deck heights are the same.
FAHRVERGNUGEN;
Description of a pleasurable sensation,
Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#143355
:thumb