Mystery \"thump\"s (more suspension woes)

75L Learner Dubber

6 posts · joined Nov 2002 · 25 Nov 2002, 8:29 am

#11676

I have a mysterious noise which sounds like it's coming from the rear suspension of my 75L. It sounds just like a worn shocky, but I've replaced both shocks as well as the torsion bar bushes (the torsion bar tubes were touching the backing plates). After all that, the irritating "bump" noise is still there!
Any suggestions appreciated...

Darthbug Slammed & Awesome Dubber

76 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 25 Nov 2002, 10:11 am

#11692

Try your wheel bearings/ CV joints, had a simular problem in mine!:vader

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 25 Nov 2002, 1:11 pm

#11723

Is the noise rythmic? - as in does it follow the revs or when it is under load?

I had it as well by mine was the big doughnut on the torsion bar.
You said you have changed these.

Other things we changed/investigated was
1) Flogged out wheel drum. Sometime these can wear so when you have tightened them up they dont grab on the drum.
2) Worn out gromment under the 19 or 17mm nut that joins body to pan near the top rear shock mount.
3) Front engine/box mount

Did you change both doughnuts or just the outer?

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KruizinKombi Seriously Obsessed Cyber Dubber

3,493 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 25 Nov 2002, 5:36 pm

#11761

And if none of those work, check that your engine cover lock actually holds the cover down!! 😀

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vwrallycar Insano Dub Head

721 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 26 Nov 2002, 9:01 pm

#11967

this is an interesting post cause my 70 has exactly the same problem. never been able to find it, just learnt to live with it.
everything thats mentioned above has been checked or replaced on mine but still the noise.
but its only the passenger rear!:alien

75L Learner Dubber

6 posts · joined Nov 2002 · 27 Nov 2002, 8:42 am

#11991

Aha!

a fellow sufferer. Has your 70 got IRS or swing axles?

I don't think it's CVs, bearings or brakes. I hope it's not diagonal arm bushes, 'cause they will be a pain to fix (couldn't be in your case if your car has swing axles). My noise seems to be only on the driver side rear.

aussiebug Officially Full-On Dubber

246 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 27 Nov 2002, 3:31 pm

#12065

75L wrote:Aha!

a fellow sufferer. Has your 70 got IRS or swing axles?

If it's a 70... only the semi-autos had IRS in Australia (first year was 68).

The manual cars got IRS in 1971 (69 in the USA though).

VWrallycar - does your 70 still have the Z bar helper spring? It won't have one if it is/was a semi-auto - only the manuals from 68 to 70 included have them.

If it's been lowered at all that bar gets a harder workout (it only operates when the body squats). It has bearings of it's own attached to the body - could be those, or it could also be a thump when the spring plate mounted bracket moves up rapidly and contacts the rubber bumper on the Z bar operating arms. Oh, and it DOES have rubber bumpers on the operating arms doesn't it??? If not, that would certainly make a noise.

Rob
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vwrallycar Insano Dub Head

721 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 28 Nov 2002, 1:10 pm

#12271

yeah my 70 has an IRS pan under it. it is at standard ride height and everything is in good nic. its a hard one to find!

BiX Veteran Volks Folk

2,499 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 29 Nov 2002, 9:58 am

#12387

I've got "the thump" in one of my 74l's. I am replacing the big rubber bushes. It only happens over bumps. I have replaced the shockies 6 months ago. If it persists I will have to look at the inner bushes. If anyone solves it please post it!

75L Learner Dubber

6 posts · joined Nov 2002 · 6 Dec 2002, 1:28 pm

#13319

Found it!

it was worn "body to chassis shock pads" ie the rubber pads under each of the 17mm bolts that joins the body to pan near the top rear shock mounts. Got replacement pads from Mick Motors, put them in & no more "thumps"!

I'm told this is one that mechanics also often miss.

Thanks to all for advice
:kiss

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 6 Dec 2002, 1:53 pm

#13323

blue74l wrote:Other things we changed/investigated was
2) Worn out gromment under the 19 or 17mm nut that joins body to pan near the top rear shock mount.

Who Hoo - i win the cupi doll :bounce

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75L Learner Dubber

6 posts · joined Nov 2002 · 11 Dec 2002, 3:07 pm

#14353

Yup

You're the man, Blue 74L!:thumb

BUGBOY Moderator Chief Toy Dude / Head Cruiser

2,147 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 13 Dec 2002, 10:08 pm

#14800

Well I better change the ones in my car too!
Thanks:thumb

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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 13 Dec 2002, 10:29 pm

#14806

Hi

There is another place fit rubber plates that VW never used, its near where the rear of the back seats fit and it is covered up with some tape, fit blocks to these holes and it will hold the body much better to the chassis.

1302Steve

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 15 Dec 2002, 8:27 pm

#15027

Bit more info please STeve. I am tired and dont understand where you mean.

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