I think there was a thread on the old forum about HPC pros and cons, but I can't find it.
Can anyone tell me what they think?
Ta
Jay
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Part of Melbourne's Unreal Aircooled VW Community
HPC ????? :P
If you are talking about powder coating your exhaust the ONLY down side is the cost. BUT when you add better running and it will be the LAST exhaust you buy it is GREAT value.
If you are NOT talking about ceramic coating then i have no idea.......🙁
Futue te ipsum!!!
Then again may be its some kind of hip Melbourne dance club drug! 😎
Futue te ipsum!!!
Yeah I was talking about exhaust coatings. High Performance Coatings :P
I think its aluminium not ceramic though...?
Jay
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Part of Melbourne's Unreal Aircooled VW Community
I had HPC coating on one of my cars and it was excellent. Not cheap though.:thumb
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Probably the only thing bad about HPC is the cost, but if your exhaust is in good condition and you are going to keep your car for a long time it is well worth it.
I too have only heard good things about HPCing exhausts (except the cost!). It increases the life of the header/extractor/muffler and supposedly gives some benefit to the engine due to its heat dissipation properties (not sure about this though). Not to mention it looks sweet and does not discolour (even stainless exhausts do), now available in black as well as the usual silver .....man this sounds like an ad!
Actually HPC, or Ceramic, coatings are a mixture of aluminium and ceramic, which is applied much the same as powder coats, then baked on. So everyone was right - isn't that nice? I too have only heard good things; including comments from reputable sources that if the coating is also applied to the inside it will improve performance. :thumb
If your going to do it Jay make sure you buy a brand new exhaust. Once an exhaust has been used it can still be done but it won't last anywhere near as long!
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I'd do it just Jay. Since you spent so much on the rest of the car, and since the vw exhaust is visible from the back I would do it.
Just start with a new exhaust as herb says. It would be a bit of a waste on an old exhaust, and it also would not look as good because the surface wouldn't be quite as smooth. You could sell your old exhaust if it's in good nick.
I was going to get it done on my baja exhaust but my exhaust is about 7 yrs old so I would've needed a new exhaust. But I didn't want to do that because I had plans for a different motor not long down the track.
Wes -
www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control...
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www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.
OK.. everyone says cost is a problem, expensive blah blah blah... but no-one has actually said HOW MUCH???
Can anyone give me a ballpark figure??
TA!
Jay
Queen of Chat
Part of Melbourne's Unreal Aircooled VW Community
Topless has done the exhaust on his his kombi, ask him.
I think I saw someone quote a figure of around $350 for the whole exhaust, but don't quote me.
Ring Jet-hot, 26 Elizabeth Street, Castlemaine, (03) 5470 6416 or check out their website at
www.jet-hot.com.auKruizin Kol
I too have heard of the $350-400 mark for header and muffler of a type 1
But how does the cost compare with stainless steel? Or are we making a fashion statement with our lovely white or grey exhaust systems????
I had my Bugcrap merged header and hideaway muffler done by HPC in Brendale, Brisbane for $220. Not too bad relative to the price of the exhaust.
That has gotta be ok! I mean it is the last exhaust you will buy.
I reckon that would be better than stainless
Futue te ipsum!!!
Jay, I reckon the silver finish would look great on your bug, just like the nickel factory mufflers
Just noticed an older post asking how this compares to stainless - I had a quote for a stainless system 20 years ago of $1400, sans muffler. I'd hate to ask what it costs these days.
hhhmmmmm i know which way i would be going
HPC all the way
Ahh, thats what I was looking for 🙂 Thanks heaps guys, that's what I wanted to hear 😀
Jay
Queen of Chat
Part of Melbourne's Unreal Aircooled VW Community
geoden: Quoted from the Jet Hot Coatings website at [link]
http://www.jet-hot.com.au/product.htm[/link] :
"In accelerated salt spray tests, JET-HOT last over 140 times longer than high-temp paints, more than 14 times longer than chrome plating and out performs other ceramic formulas. Our newest coating, JET-HOT 2000 even protects metals at temperatures exceeding 1100c degrees, making it ideal for turbocharger or extreme horsepower applications where ultimate durability is required."
Thats good enough for me.
🙂Kruizin Kol
