more body off the bug questions!

battybat Seriously Crusin Dubber

127 posts · joined Mar 2004 · 10 May 2004, 10:52 pm

#172333

Hi!

I'm planning to take the body off my 69 bug and replace the pan, rather than having new halves welded in (good chance to do it properly). I found a few posts on body removal, so I have an idea of what i'm letting myself in for, and what needs doing

I'm wondering

A) how long would this usually take - I'll only be able to work on it a couple of days a weekend, and I'll be on a time limit of a month for the garage space - is it a 2/3 day job or a lot longer?

B) is it possible to lift the body off using people power - if I take the wings, bonnet, boot etc off??

C) do I need any special tools?

I'm preparing as much as possible in advance - removing bolts and greasing them up before putting them back, stripping the interior, labeling the wiring loom etc etc so I'll know that everything will come apart easily when I start!

any advice from those of you that have gone through this before would be most appreciated

cheers

Terry

http://www.dtsband.com - Rock and Roll is NOT dead

My other car is a scooter, and it's in even more bits than my beetle. One day they will both be back together.......

waltermitty Legend when my beer goggles are on

1,993 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 11 May 2004, 4:24 pm

#172607

At least 4 people, remove all guards and panels, with air tools its a comfortable one day jobbie 2 casses beer and a BBQ for the helpers. For a first timer with reasonable skills , dont forget the earth from the battery and the speedo cable I did . See sams exellent sight for some great inside info and lotts of pics of the proceedure.
http://vwfool.tk/
Mitchell:thumb

[Edited on 11-5-2004 by waltermitty]

23 windows ...8 too many!

battybat Seriously Crusin Dubber

127 posts · joined Mar 2004 · 11 May 2004, 4:31 pm

#172612

sounds good - no air tools though, so I'll add a day to that!

cheers

terry

http://www.dtsband.com - Rock and Roll is NOT dead

My other car is a scooter, and it's in even more bits than my beetle. One day they will both be back together.......

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 11 May 2004, 5:21 pm

#172627

if I take the wings, bonnet, boot etc off??

You must be going to work on a Jumbo Jet.... WINGS

In Aussie we have Mudguards.

1 Remove the seats front and rear

2 remove doors

3 remove fuel tank

4 unbolt sides 13 mm heads 8 each side

5 unbolt 4 fron t17mm head bolts

6 undo 2 bolts on front beaver in fuel tank area

7 undo rear shock tower bolts 17mm

8 undo 17mm bolts on rear seat support

9 undo 13mm head bolts on rear frame near battery

10 get a garage jack n block of wood jack under side of car to break seal

11 disconnect steering coloum n speedo cable

12 get 3 other strong guys like your self and lift body off and onto some stands

use some lengths of wood 3 x 2 for instance and slide under the body front n rear makes it easier to lift

Stand back n drink beer
hows that

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

*did*

0 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 11 May 2004, 5:34 pm

#172636

I did it in a day on my own, no air tools, 1 jack and at the end 5 minutes of 3 people helping.
Just make sure you dont miss any of the bolts 🙂

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 11 May 2004, 5:47 pm

#172648

I'm with you DID !

2 hours to remove all the bolts, left the guards on, removed the doors. 4 people to lift!!!

If you remove all the guards and doors etc add about another 3 hours and then you only need two people.

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 11 May 2004, 5:52 pm

#172651

2 people for a bare bug shell 4 people for a car with guards bonnet n stuff fitted...

+ at least 1 cartoon of beer

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

VWFOOL King for a day, Fool for a lifetime.

3,436 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 11 May 2004, 6:16 pm

#172670

check my tech tips section for some more info as well
http://vwfool.tk

we found the oval bodies to be much heavier than later models.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
One man's junk...

waltermitty Legend when my beer goggles are on

1,993 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 11 May 2004, 7:03 pm

#172687

Dave Ill see your 1 additional carton of beer and raize you another, plus dancing girls!
Yeah must be a steak in every beer you have Dave as they say or sams right, lifting the oval shell alone I glad there was 4 of us.
Mitchell:beer

23 windows ...8 too many!

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 May 2004, 5:14 pm

#173061

Mitch

Yep i will raise you another carton + 2 Tee Bones.

Yeah 2 eggs n a sirlion in every carton.

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

battybat Seriously Crusin Dubber

127 posts · joined Mar 2004 · 12 May 2004, 7:17 pm

#173110

I'm all fired up!

will fetch the pan this weekend I think and get the prep work done on it, and start unbolting stuff - the interior is out already apart from the drivers seat

as I have no roof it should be lighter than the average bug too!

sounds like a good excuse for a party - take all the bits off, then get the boys round to do the lifting and reward them with a cerimonial burning of some bits of cow, and some fizzy pop

Mitchell - you're on the beaches too? which bit? I'm in fairlight, what are you driving? I'll keep my eyes out!

thanks for the advice everyone, i'll post pix of the whole process in my topic on members rides - I have plans for the beast!

cheers!

terry

http://www.dtsband.com - Rock and Roll is NOT dead

My other car is a scooter, and it's in even more bits than my beetle. One day they will both be back together.......

waltermitty Legend when my beer goggles are on

1,993 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 May 2004, 8:32 pm

#173135

Yo Terry I didnt notice your locality i am at North Narrabeen and my daily is a birch green and lotus white 64 delux 13 window microbus.
If you need any help im hoples but i am in the area
0422 802 199
Mitchell

23 windows ...8 too many!

buzzbug Praise the lowered

1,992 posts · joined Mar 2003 · 12 May 2004, 9:00 pm

#173144

g'day terry,
mate here are a few pics of the off the pan job that i had done on my 76 bug.
To get the body off and elevated, motor switched from pan to pan and new pan slid under, it took only two people.
But it was a lot of stuffing around.
The other people come in handy when you realign to body to the pan.
Lee.

some people are like slinky's
they have no useful purpose
but they are fun to watch
when you push them down the stairs

battybat Seriously Crusin Dubber

127 posts · joined Mar 2004 · 13 May 2004, 12:07 am

#173243

cheers mitchell!

I used to be trundling up old pittwater road to Newport on a daily basis, but am now working at Frenchs Forest

i'm OK with the spanners, but the job is going to be fun in a single garage, so may need muscles!

my plan is to take the body off and 'park' it in the lane on blocks while I strip the old pan and rebuild all the bits back onto the new one, so it's going to be a case of lift and carry with the body!

will keep a look out for you

and thanks for the pix Lee - gives me some ideas!

terry

http://www.dtsband.com - Rock and Roll is NOT dead

My other car is a scooter, and it's in even more bits than my beetle. One day they will both be back together.......

buzzbug Praise the lowered

1,992 posts · joined Mar 2003 · 13 May 2004, 7:21 pm

#173544

glad they helped mate.
Good luck.

some people are like slinky's
they have no useful purpose
but they are fun to watch
when you push them down the stairs