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Early guards & lights on later bug?

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*did*

0 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#182963
Do people put early guards and lights onto later bugs?
I was looking in Ultra VW magazine and saw a couple of "1971" beetles in the classefieds section with the earlier style front guards and headlights on them.
Is this possible?
Do you think it is a good idea?
I like the earlier headlights because they are porsche style.

Dannyboy half man , half horse

2,306 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#182986
Early guards , W deck lid etc etc. Yea heaps of folk do it!

Dan🙂
"If i had to explain you wouldnt understand"

The Lower Class

Kai.A. Fahrvergnugen

915 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#182999
yep, extremely popular modification in the u.k!

it's apparently not too difficult to do either....

kai

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#183387
Vintage VDub or Richard Holzl from VForce do a standard shape fibreglass guard which takes the early headlight for your car.

SKEWtYpe3 Custom Title Time!

1,859 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#183388
i think if u decide to use original parts u have to change the front clip and a few other timely mods.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#183396
Nah, they all just bolt on. Early to late, late to early...............the only difference is where the bumper bar mounts onto the car. With an early beetle it bolts through the apron at the front, whereas a late beetle bolts through the guards.


killakornkobb where's that clutch?

1,663 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#183418
how hard would it be to modify the rear apron to allow a earlier style decklid? is any required at all?.. i like the "ridge" on the 65ish Deck lids.. or a W ofcourse🙂

the 68 has a real plain decklid 🙁

nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#183427
The rear is no problem to swap over-I have a late fuel injected rear panel on my Oval so I can use the later lid for more air/room for my Type4 with Porsche cooling.I have 73 rear guards that I have tried on my Oval,they will fit but some of the bolt holes are in a different spot(just redrill)I thought that I tried the front ones and the shape and contour was way different where they bolt on????????

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#183431
Depends on your skill level and tools !!

It is relatively easy.

If you unbolt the rear guards and open/ remove the engine lid you will be able to see where it is spot welded to the body. Use a spot weld drill (available from panel/paint shops) and drill each spot weld. You can then remove the apron and replace with an earlier one!


Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#183433
nbturbo wrote:I thought that I tried the front ones and the shape and contour was way different where they bolt on????????
You were probably trying to fit the 73 superbug guards, these are different.

Late Beetle (balljoint) guards will fit.

Cheers


Unity-28 TOO LOW? NEVER

1,742 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#183437
Standard bugs till 71 in England had the sloped type headlights.....

Volkspower Seriously Crusin Dubber

118 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#183454
The guards changed in 68 like everywhere else unless you bought a base model 1200. To change to the earlier style front and rear lids you just need to change the front and rear aprons. I did it to my first 72 when it seemed impossible to find a 60's bug in 1990. I wouldn't bother doing it now though. Just buy a 6v beetle instead.

Unity-28 TOO LOW? NEVER

1,742 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#183457
Alright Smarty pants! HEHE!

N!:P

Volkspower Seriously Crusin Dubber

118 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#183498
You were half right N. When are we going to see this beetle anyway?

Unity-28 TOO LOW? NEVER

1,742 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#183510
I dont F#@kin know! ITs killing me.....

N!

*did*

0 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#183732
Now here is a big question... should I do it?
Front and back guards/lights, or just the front?
Not straight away, just something to think about for the future.
I would keep all the original bits too so that I could go back to stock anytime.

killakornkobb where's that clutch?

1,663 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#183937
i reckon do it🙂 the older rear lights look way cooler.. and the slanted fronts also look better.. if your considering it then obviously your getting a decent spray job done.. so why not customize it up with alla the best bits? 🙂

*did*

0 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#184204
yeah im saving up for a nice respray, a couple of years away though.
actually i came across some early 60's guards at the wreckers that are the same colour as my '69.
thinking i will pick them up if i can get them for less than $50 for the pair, less if i find that they need a bit of a beating.
then all i need is the headlights.
thanks for the response everyone 🙂