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kombi_kid Moderator Good Kid too many projects

124 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#18731
hey
if using a big motor like a holden V6 in a kombi i would want a strong box but want to keep the VW box and heard that some gearmaker (alvins) can make VW boxers bulletproof able to handle 400HP???? Indian automotive have a kombi box that can handle 400hp but is 5000 grand 🙁
cheers
rhys
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amazer kombi pilot

3,187 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#18823
Which holden V6 puts out 400hp? I'm no expert on holden engines but the latest v8's have 300 badge meaning they arent putting out 400 hp either. These tricked up boxes still break when abused as well.

Dont try and do burnouts and a stock kombi box will take a V6's hp without any problems at all. Only thing is a commodore at 100kays is barely idling. You may want to buy the gears to drop engine speed.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf

kombi_kid Moderator Good Kid too many projects

124 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#18893
that was just an estimate chris!
who is the best gearbox person to speak to????
cheers
rhys
it aint just cool its aircool'd

56astro Custom Title Time!

1,772 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#18923
Rhys

Lawrence Svensen at GERMAN AUTOS did my gearbox - 07 3865 5477. Very well respected in the industry, not just VW loonies like us.

The gears used don't make the gearbox bullet proof. It is the way the whole thing is put together as well as quality parts. A fool could assemble a gearbox with ALBINS gears and the thing could be a piece of sh1t.

From what I can gather, later kombi gearboxes are the way to go for the type of thing you're talkin about. Anything bigger (more expensive) would be over-kill.

Talk to Lawrence, but be warned, he won't tolerate time-wasters.

See ya round

Steve

VW car, VW engine ...... keepin it "real"
35MPG on 101.3kPa

kombi_kid Moderator Good Kid too many projects

124 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#18945
thanks steve!!! im not serious about it so i wont ring him just when i can gather some money i would love to do it!!!
cheers
rhys
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KruizinKombi Seriously Obsessed Cyber Dubber

3,493 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#18968
Just use a 6-rib kombi box and treat it nicely. You can always upgrade the guts later when you have the cash.🙂
Kruizin Kol

amazer kombi pilot

3,187 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#18994
kombi_kid wrote:who is the best gearbox person to speak to????
I dont think there would be many people in Australia to have built more VW gearboxes especially tricked up ones than Michael Shimo, from Dunham Autos, Woonona.

I dont think theres a problem with breaking a kombi gearbox casing. The one in my race car is only an 1800, but 2 litre ratios would be slightly better suited. I dont think I'd like to be revving the V6 all the time.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf

kombi_kid Moderator Good Kid too many projects

124 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#19241
wonder whats so special about kimms box's hmmmmmm
thanks guys
cheers
rhys
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amazer kombi pilot

3,187 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#19247
probably painted flat black. maybe its chromed. sorry. just being silly. combination of beer and medication.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf

56astro Custom Title Time!

1,772 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#19344
Rhys
remember the problems we had with Jack's box he got from Indian :jesus

Paid top $ for the trouble as well!

VW car, VW engine ...... keepin it "real"
35MPG on 101.3kPa

kombi_kid Moderator Good Kid too many projects

124 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#19371
yer i know!!!! by the w3ay hows ya oval going?
cheers
rhys
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Unity-28 TOO LOW? NEVER

1,742 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#19388
fIRSTLY, "THE BADGES" ON THE BACK OF THOSE Commodore's is for kilowatts, not horsepower!!!! Secondly, The only thing you really should need to ammend is the gearing, but not essential! AAS LONG AS you DONT THRASH IT!!!! hehehe (WHAT NO FUN???!!!)

Cheers N!

amazer kombi pilot

3,187 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#19453
Yes but using those numbers you can convert to horsepower! When I did the conversion I went the wrong way, so I admit 300kW is 400hp. But only just.

Its not essential to lower gearing but its not what the engine was designed to do. Im guessing it would be the equivalent of driving a commodore at 140 150 kms an hour or more.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#19486
I got my 6 rib built by Leons Motors in Brisbane. Leon knows what he is on about and has a very high quality of work.

I ended up going with a 6-rib with the later vanagon 4 spider diff put in it, and an Albins 0.70:1 ratio 4th so I can cruise the highway at 2200rpm. I think my kombi CV's will go first. And my box was about a third of the cost of the Indian box.
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

silver Dangerous when poked

2,169 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#19502
Heres a novel idea why dont you just buy a commodore to hoon in and leave the kombi to cruize in

(am i getting old) :jesus
Keeping it real !

kombi_kid Moderator Good Kid too many projects

124 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#19561
i would like to have best of both worlds and if ford engines fitted i would use one of them (im a ford man)
cheers
rhys
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amazer kombi pilot

3,187 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#19854
Then GET OUT! Close the door behind you!😉:P
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#19867
Well my engine is a Mazda, and Ford owns Madza. Besides the same engine was used in both Ford Probes and Mazda MX6's (and 626's and Telstar Ghias).
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

amazer kombi pilot

3,187 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#19878
wasnt talking about the engine. was talking about him being a ford man!
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#19897
Sorry Chris, I was aiming that at Rhys. He said he would use a Ford engine if it fitted.

Well I have a Ford engine in mine and I reckon you could get it to fit in a kombi. You'd just need a custom fuel tank.

So basically, I don't see why he thinks he's stuck with a Holden 3.8 V6 as his only option. :thumb
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

KruizinKombi Seriously Obsessed Cyber Dubber

3,493 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#19919
And 200Hp is going to sit behind a standard box a lot nicer than 400Hp will. 🙂
Kruizin Kol

kombi_kid Moderator Good Kid too many projects

124 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#19988
hey
LOL-amazer
yer i was talkin about straight 6 power:bounce
so what do u need to do to the tank wes?
cheers
rhys
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Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#20002
look on my site and you'll see the throttle body and distributor hang over the gearbox. This is where a kombi's fuel tank is, and where my firewall was.



you might be able to turn the intake the other way though. But you'd have to figure it out.
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

amazer kombi pilot

3,187 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#20024
I would like to someday put my intercooler and turbo where the fuel tank is. The plan is to put an alloy marine tank where the back seat is. Hellbug did it before with a kombi converted to subaru engine. Wouldnt mind putting a big hatch from a T3 kombi in while I'm at it cos they are huuge. relatively speakin.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf

kombi_kid Moderator Good Kid too many projects

124 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#20027
hey
thanks wes!!
how far back is it do u estimate???cause you could just cut the firewall bit out and move it back however far it is!(its a panelvan anyway so no back seats or anything)😀
cheers
rhys
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