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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#208677
looks like i've found a body now to rebuild. ok i've already got the engine ( 2L kombi) and brakes covered. that leaves suspension and gearbox. the stock box is alright but needs some strengthening. any ideas are welcome but remember its a 72 sbug.
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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#208683
Have a chat to Alex Holzl's dad Richard @ V Force.

If you can search for a few of Alex's posts you will see Deiter's car - a snot green 72.

There is LOTS you can do
Struts first
select a decent set of wheels
brakes

Give him a call and get a package set up

Also have a read in the Club Vee Dub profiles on Jak and Steve C's cars.

They are both 1302's and set up in a similar way - ie adjustable struts etc etc
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#208687
ive got a set of empi 8 spokes already and the brakes will probably be the same set up as my first one which was a stock set up with brake boaster in the system. but im always up for new ideas.
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Che Castro ankle straps

1,945 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#208695
what kind of booster did you use? I've considered one in the past but a lot of people have said that its unecessary for a 700/800kg car
Jon

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#208697
vh 44 i think i did it cause i needed to upgrade the brakes for the engineers for the 2L
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#208802
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#208955
barls wrote:
just bumping again
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#208991
barls wrote:vh 44 i think i did it cause i needed to upgrade the brakes for the engineers for the 2L

Hi

He wanted you to put booster on? Thats a strange way to do things, why not rear disks? With that line of thinking (booster) you still have the same brakes underneath, no improvement just less effort.

Go with the skinny struts, best thing you can do to a S or L bug, also fit urathane bushings to the front end with an adjustable caster bar.

1302Steve

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#208993
ok any ideas on where to acquire these items in oz
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#209006
Hi

Vintage or V Force.

1302Steve

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#209009
ok thanks im just looking at the moment. the engineer only wanted me to upgrade some how he didnt care how just as long as it was done and it was easy cause my old man has one on his ghia
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Alex Holzl 2332cc of pure BALLZ!!

1,550 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#209011
yep when have the kits for two bolt or three bolt ready to go!! $92

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#209014
thats the struts that your talking about is it
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Alex Holzl 2332cc of pure BALLZ!!

1,550 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#209015
no the poly bushings..

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#209021
ok thanks ill look in to what im doing, but im definately dropping the front a couple of inches.
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#209029
Hi

With adjustable struts you can get it exactly where you want it.

1302Steve

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#209037
i was just going to turn the spring base off a set of stock struts and rewield them lower
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#209042
Hi

You also need to shorten the struts and fit shorter shocks. Otherwise when you lower it you run out of travel.

1302Steve

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#209045
ok im having trouble getting the vintage veedub webpage is it just me?
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Che Castro ankle straps

1,945 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#209114
Ford Falcon rear discs are pretty cheap and easy to fit (not much modification) for rear discs. They're good cos they are meant to stop a 1500kg car 🙂
Jon

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#209119
i dont want to change the sttud pattern as ive all ready got the wheels
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#209543
ok the best way to strengthen the gear box would be?
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#370054
ok dreging up this one again with the gearbox i also want to cruise at lower speeds so would changing to a 3.88 R&P from a 4.25 be the best way of doing this. also where would i get a heavy duty side plate as well
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#370058
Hi

Best way to get a 3.88 is buy a 3.88 box, but 4th gear still works out about the same RPM v speed. You need to to change gear sets to get what you want, can get pricey.

Side plates, coming from the leading high performance VW gearbox builder in Australia (not me), the late model stock ones are better that the heavy duty ones.


Steve

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#370084
so the plates off a 1303 box are better than the heavy duty 1302 ones. ok ive got a spare 1302 box how hard would it be to change out the r&p to use the later 3.88 one. who in oz in building boxes steve cause i have no idea
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#370087
Hi

In the Sydney area there only people I trust, Shimmo at Dunhams in the Gong or Henry, who built my box.

The 1303 side plates have extra ribbing in them, its best to just find a good 3.88 box.

Steve

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#370090
ok thanks mate thats just made it alot clearer for me. what i might do is get a 3.88 box and put the 4th out of the sbug box in it. cause its going with a t4 2L im building
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ColumBUS Hail To The Bus Driver!

3,601 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#370156
ill second the recommendation of dunhams.

barls could you send me some info regarding the kombi motor swap?

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#370257
u2u sent fish man
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#371748
how do you think this gear combo will go with a stock t4 2L steve or anyone else who will answer
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