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Attn offroad racers, what do you do for a shifter? (Seagull this means you)

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pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#232347
I have the poos with my shifter setup on the buggy.:cussing

What do you guys do for a shifter when ya use a kombi box?

I have a 002 (1800) box in mine if that makes any difference to it.

p.s. pics of ya setups would be great! 😉

[Edited on 14-9-2004 by pete wood]
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bigbaja Wolfsburg Wizard

438 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·

#232622
we have scat ones $285
u2u me if your keen
brand new
terry
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bigbaja Wolfsburg Wizard

438 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·

#232623
we have scat ones $285
u2u me if your keen
brand new
terry
Terry - Custom Off Road Components
28 Hayward Street, Stafford QLD 4053
Ph: (07) 3356 4356 - Fax: (07) 3356 6765

11CAB If ya got it....Baja it

4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#232964
Is this what you mean?

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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#233029
You need to get the grinder out for this and few machined up parts

I cut the shifter plate down in the tunnel plated it and weld it back up on a angle ,sight rise to the shift out put on the box .

The vw shift tube was removed & I made a 5/8 " solid one ( as I had bent a few shifting )>cut and welded the shifter cup on one end . The other end I got a uni from a steering shaft *vw super bug if I recall * machined the end so it would fit over the out put shaft on the box drilled and taped a hole ( grub screw ) in it for fixing , I cut the spline section off the shaft and welded this to the new shifter shaft so that just tightend with the bolt for removel .

clean the weld off .

Shifter guide *

I also made a bush * nylon * this fitted into a metal bush with a C clip to hold it there .I welded that to a bit of 50 x 10 flat bar, fed the new shifter shaft through it and fed it down the tunnel , cut a slot in the tunnel and twisted the shifter shaft so the flat bar came out the slot ( get a magnet on a pen ), fiited the uni up >made sure it shifted ok no bind any were in the system
I them ran a weld across the flat bar to hold it the tunnel ( get a hose ) to cool it plastic melts did this bit twice !


I hope this helps

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Desert Moose Cut Cut Cut

2,098 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#233031
pete wood wrote:been there 11cab, didn't work.

Big baja, is that a system that is used in offroad buggys? any pics?
G'day Pete,
what are you doing ??? bus box in to what a pipe buggy or a manx type buggy?

I use a jamer shifter (pic attached) but you can make your own if its a race car. If its a manx you can make a cable shifter if you can get a lathe or you can get an alloy thing like what 11cab's got or even some different ways....

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Wag67 Wolfsburg Wizard

469 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#233034
In my old class 6 custom offroad made a similar box to the one above but it was open with a solid plate at the rear and bracing on the side. we then used a standard bettle shifter. worked well and never had any problems. ask terry to ask George C about it. It was cheap and strong
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Desert Moose Cut Cut Cut

2,098 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#233108
Wag67 wrote:In my old class 6 custom offroad made a similar box to the one above but it was open with a solid plate at the rear and bracing on the side. we then used a standard bettle shifter. worked well and never had any problems. ask terry to ask George C about it. It was cheap and strong
If brad at COR can't help you I have a jig for making them as well.

BiX Veteran Volks Folk

2,499 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#233109
Similar to the box setup but was open and very simple. only have afew issues
1- no sping in the system, so it just falls when it wants to (ok for a race car, as its normally in gear or the car is stopped)
2- the change was complete opposite, eg 1st was back and right, 4 was fowards and left
but, you could cover it in mud, run it through water and it would neve die!!!
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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#233284
how many $ chris for one of those in the photo
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Desert Moose Cut Cut Cut

2,098 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#233304
seagull wrote:how many $ chris for one of those in the photo
$270

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#233422
I have a better idea ? but need sleeeeeeeeeep , another long night in the shed .
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Desert Moose Cut Cut Cut

2,098 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#233423
this is the one I have a jig for...... you need to pull the old shaft out, use the old shifter and shift plate , do a bit of welding but its cheap

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#233612
already done something like that, only I am using a bit of beetle centre tunnel with the shift housing in it.

Problem is, the gate is really imprecise and it is hard to get into gear. It is an 1800 002 box, fully recoed.
this is the setup at the mo,

the linkage at the back is an excel steering shaft and unis, the rest is modded beetle stuff.

http://www.geocities.com/peterwood732/buggyproject/buggyproject6.html

check the pics on this page
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Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#233665
Hi Pete,

you already know this, but anyway.

As Graham has posted I am running 2 shifter couplings welded on top of one another to step from the kombi box down into the tunnel



Total set-up looks like this



I am then running some sort of shifter that says INDY on the side, not sure what it is.

this is the only photo I seem to have handy



Now when I first set it up it worked fine. All I had to do was adjust the reverse gate position, which is a matter of turning a screw on my shifter.

Then last week I put a new shift bush in the tunnel. A $5 bush that is a pain in the arse to get in there. But now it's in, the whole shifter and feel of the shift is back to new. Absolutely beautiful shifting.

A thought is maybe your gearbox is rooted, and giving you the dodgy gates. In which case spending money on a shifter won't help you any.
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Desert Moose Cut Cut Cut

2,098 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#233670
That bush "Wes" is talking about is the problem with what you are doing now...... you don't have one, you need to have one if you are going to run the setup.

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#233697
You could certainly be right there mr moose, if there is no bush near the shifter then the shifter would certainly be vague.

I pulled my finger out and took a pic of my shifter.

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4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#233730
Yeah Wes, that was the only photo that I could find that showed it well. I didnt think you'd mind.
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pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#233981
could be the bush, but there is one in there at the mo. I hope it's not the gearbox, coz that was fully recoed before it was put in the car. someone said to me that the box might be tight coz it's newly recoed, any thoughts on that?
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Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#234012
I got the shifter out of a wrecked beetle, so I don't actually know what Brand it is. I'm sure the stock shifter would work fine in my car too, but haven't tried it.
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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#234080
Wes-what sort of car did you rat the seats from??

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#234091
I've been told they are from a Honda Prelude, but I'm not sure.
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