how stupid for the press to publish it, now everybody knows, bike theft will go up overnight, bloody yanks they are soo pathetic
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You think our press is any better??
I didn't know how to make a bomb from brake fluid & chlorine til I read it in the paper.
I didn't know how to make poison from a common weed til I read it in the paper.
Well my friends are gone & my hair is grey, I ache in the places where I used to play.
Yeh, why do you think Bin Laden is still not captured, he must read the papers and watch the tv, probably got the net too eh!
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I guess we can try to rely on the fact that some theiving scum cant read or dont read the newpapers/press!
This is called "security through obscurity" and it never ever works. The motivated types in society can always work these things out.
In security, we have a long running discussion about the values of full disclosure and limited disclosure. CERT used limited disclosure and gave vendors all the time in the world to "fix" the problems reported to them. This basically meant during the late 80's through mid 90's before Bugtraq really got going, vendors were able to get away with not fixing their products. However, this did not stop the criminals successfully attacking sites. On the contrary they were far more successful back then than now (on a % of machines cracked vs attacker ratio).
When Bugtraq came to the fore in the mid-1990's, the CERTs of this world decried it saying that the world would end, sky fall in, pigs would fly, etc. Nothing of the sort happened. The end result is a version of Microsoft Windows which I as an experienced security professional can't easily attack in its default configuration from the network. It took years of full disclosure to get to that point. If you gave me the same OS (or indeed any other OS) from the mid-1990's, it takes literally seconds to break into them and completely own them.
Does having a faulty lock help you keep your car or bike secure? No! Only a secure lock does. Vendors who have no scrutiny are under no pressure to fix their faulty products.
Don't blame the newspapers / meeja for it either, even if they are easy targets. When I was a kid many years ago, there was a samizdat book making the rounds called The Poor Man's James Bond. Very interesting reading if you can get your hands on it. The newspapers never report the existence of this (or similar) books.
The media do not publicise the vast majority of suicides (which, sadly, is actually higher than the road toll every year). Yet, I would imagine most of you would have an idea of how to go about doing it.
This is only good news for bike owners in one sense - they know a brand of lock to avoid, and the brand of lock has to revise their product, which will make it harder for theives to take the secured item.
But no control is absolute. In the security world, there's a company called Underwriter's Laboratory. They test safes and locks against determined and skilled attackers. For example, a safe will be rated by how long it will take for a skilled attacker with tools to crack it. Most safes are rated at less than 30 minutes. Just because I can't open it doesn't mean the safe is invulnerable to attack, and I as the safe owner should be aware of how strong the safe is against such an attack.
Most over the counter locks are trivial to attack because they have no such scrutiny or standards.
Exercise for the reader: "Club" steering locks are vulnerable to someone with a very simple tool. Why? Think like an attacker and you'll get it.
Andrew
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Crooks also have 'underground' communication and crime schools (juvi or jails :-p ) Info like this in the news will make the user aware of what the attacker already knows. How many half decent bikes will survive on the streets with their New York Lock today as I bet every fifty cent playa will know this trick by know. The big question is does Peter Punter know when he locks up his bike with his big lock and chain that it is worthless? Probably not.
