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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#232403
im looking at something that may very well work, using a complete strut assembly and lower ball joint from....another car (jap) which'll give me some nice big brakes indeed!

i'll post pics as soon as I have it trial fitted in place, but it looks like it's gonna work. 🙂 (yes I'm a bastard 😀)
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AdrianH Officially Full-On Dubber

257 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#234366
Ive seen skyline brakes on a 1302 ---- that wouldnt be it ??

Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#234724
nah, im going much cheaper. I test sat it all in place and it looks like it'll work fine once I have fitted a coil over kit to the strut and modified the lower control arm for the larger ball joint. I'll upload some pics when I get a minute. the rotor is a 25mm x 250mm vented unit.
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wacked1 Custom Title Time!

1,508 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#236091
sweeet, show us
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Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#236490
come on then 🙂 dont leave us all waiting in suspense !

Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#236508
muuaahahah! 😀

yeah I'll post pics when I get home tonite.
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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#236758
Ok, here it is just loosely sitting in place

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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#236762
Here it is laying next to a stock strut.

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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#236763
and in situ again. I've located a shorter strut with coil overs already fitted so should work a treat with a spring change. I'll be going larger rotors and calipers, I mainly want to set up the hubs first, everything else hangs off that.

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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#236764
Hmmm, more adjustable camber, too... Good thinking, ninety-nine. A jap, RWD five-stud? Let me have a think about that....

[Edited on 23-9-2004 by VWCOOL]
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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#236767
And a close-up.

By using a FWD hub and the end of the drive shaft to secure it (once I have machined the cup off it) it should be a lot stiffer than the stock spindle. Also the bottom ball joint is about 4 times the size as the stock superbug one.

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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#236769
it's a FWD strut assembly, not RWD 🙂
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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#236772
Ahhh... okay then. I actually thought it was Camry at first, the wrongly assumed it was RWD
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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#236776
actually, you hit the nail on the head, it is camry! I was going to use magna, but the camry not only has the upside down ball joint, it has a second camber adjustment on the top hub bolt.
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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#236803
That means you can run WRX rims! Fullly siick!:P
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koolkarmakombi enkarmarising

2,078 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#236883
or camry ones..... :puke
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#236901
Yep thats a good idea... go for it

Keep up the good work.

do u need rear blank hubs ?? to redrill same stud pattern
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Jeza Officially Full-On Dubber

353 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#236958
Secoh

Nice!!

Probably lighter than my old 944 set up to, and a huge number of good looking wheels to choose from at reasonable prices.

Are you going to complement the fronts with the Falcon rears?

What are the stud pattern differences?

Anyone know what the piston sizes are?

You mention bigger calipers- are these upgradeable from something else in the Toyota range?

And another thought that springs to mind, can you use the standard speedo cable through the centre of the remaining part of the drive shaft?

Cunning!! Keep us posted.

Cheers
Jeremy
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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#236960
I'm going to be using a digital speedo so I'm not worrying about that for myself.

Supra and Celica (such as GT4) may well be interchangable with calipers. I haven't looked yet.

Stud pattern is same as falcon and hiace/hilux and 11tybillion others, 114.5mm.

Rear brakes I haven't looked at yet. One crisis at a time 😀
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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#237824
haha believe me the thought crossed my mind! and if I could locate an AWD transaxle that would suit for reasonable $$$ it would have been the plan!

[Edited on 26-9-2004 by Secoh]
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Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#238069
Looking good ! I would never have guessed Camry.... actually I would never have guessed Camry struts were good for anything.......

Coupla questions....

1). How have you arranged the bottom mounting point of the strut ? Are these for the early (3 bolt) or late (2 bolt) strut setups ?

2). Steering rod setup etc ? Does the camry hub mean that you need modified length steering rods ?

Looks great. Will be nice in the end I think.

Doug

Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#238128
sure, here's my take on it so far:

1.) The lower ball joint is the later "upside down" two bolt type, so it means a redrilling of the tapered hole in the lower control arm. I'm planning on making my own adjustable arms anyway so I'm not too stressed about it at the moment, but it looks like it might be ok with some adjustable strut tops to get the camber right.

2.) Steering rods are so far looking right, other than the SB tie rod end taper being too small. If the stock steering is to be used then different tie rod ends will be needed. I'm still at this stage hoping to use a camira rack.
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Jeza Officially Full-On Dubber

353 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#257521
Secoh

Any progress reports?

Can I ask, have you swapped sides. I had a look around a number of FWD cars up at pick a part in the weekend and noticed that the steering arm generally came off the back of the steering knuckle and the calliper was mounted to the front. Opposite to the VW.

Does swaping sides alter the geometry at all?

Cheers
Jeremy
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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#260468
I'm still fiddling with it all. Yes swapping sides messes up the geometry in a big way, part of why the camry ones were what I chose.

Looks like I'll be cutting the camry strut down to fit coil-overs. my biggest problem is my lack of time due to the house renovations. 🙁
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