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waltermitty Legend when my beer goggles are on

1,993 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#4347
When I purchaced my white notchie it had 11 months rego in VIC I live in NSW but chose to cop the $70 odd dollar fine for not transfering within 14 days of its purchace and run the rego out before blue slipping and re regoing in NSW. Anyway Vic roads has just sent me a renewal and seem quite happy to allow a NSW resident to drive a VIC road reg car.
Does anyone know (not just guess) what the implications if any are for keeping with VIC roads? trying to get accurate imformation from the RTA is well......you know and the rego people at VIC roads are heaps helpful and SAY that they dont care (just want the money of course) and thier rego includes 3rd party and is cheap.
The way I see it if I dont get done by a zealous copper then I have nothing to loose and if I do I get fined the late tranfer re rego fine (poor tax). cash in my remaining VIC reg and then rego NSW.
When are these nuckleheads going to realise that we need national rego and vehicle data base anyway?
What do you think?
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Flying VW Wolfsburg Wizard

680 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#4348
My Brother lives in Canberra but it is more than $200 cheaper to have His 4WD and BULLBAR registered in Victoria and he doesn't have to have annual checks or what ever they do up there.

vanderaj Administrator a suffusion of yellow

3,130 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#4736
IANAL. I can't tell you about the fines or anything cos I didn't cop them, but I can tell you about my experience moving to NSW and back.

When I moved to NSW, I stayed with Vic plates until it was time for re-rego (about six months). Never any hassle from the police or anything. Then I bought a new car and let the dealer deal with the rego problem (If I was them, I'd just sell the car onto a Vic VW dealer. I don't know what happened to it. Don't care).

When I moved back last year, I waited three months before buying yet another new car (my Turbo Beetle, yay!) to solve the NSW plates problem. Again, no hassle from Vic police over the NSW rego, and the yellow plates were excellent for doing all sorts of stupid things - people expect out of towners to do stupid things. :-)

Getting the license changed over (couldn't avoid that, and three months is the time limit, not two weeks) was relatively painless - about 15 mins at North Sydney RTA and about an hour at VicRoads in South Oakleigh. I was eligible for a gold license in NSW and when I returned to Victoria they gave me all of the license time left over again. So the fee I paid in 1995 for a 10 year license hasn't been paid again at all! :-)

Getting the remainder of the rego transferred is also pretty easy from watching other people do it at VicRoads when they were rego'ing my type 3. They WANT you to transfer over, so they do make it easy. Wander in with your old plates and VIN (chassis number and engine number). They'll inspect the car and check the RWC and then you'll be issued with new plates. Easy.

Trucks are already licensed federally. But states are totally addicted to license money - I can't see them giving it up anytime soon.

So in answer, yes, it's against the law to not transfer over, but as a practical thing I wasn't hassled by the police in over nine months. Doesn't mean you wont be, just means that it didn't happen to me.

I can think of reasons why you wouldn't be hassled: imagine if you're a company owner and you have a bunch of vehicles. I'm sure that VicRoads don't mind sending the bill *wherever* to get them paid. They're not phased if the vehicle spends some of its time interstate, either, as long as they get their money.

I can't see anything on the RTA web site that says you must transfer your plates over, only your license. The plate transfer in 14 days is only for when you change the ownership of the vehicle. Ring them to get a clear answer as their web site search engine is useless.

Flying VW: No annual checks is a good thing? RWC's (Pink slips) are done on cars over three years old to keep cars roadworthy. Compared to the club inspections the VWCV do, RWC's are easy. I can't for the life of me understand why you'd be against them.

Andrew

Flying VW Wolfsburg Wizard

680 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#4741
vanderaj wrote:Flying VW: No annual checks is a good thing? RWC's (Pink slips) are done on cars over three years old to keep cars roadworthy. Compared to the club inspections the VWCV do, RWC's are easy. I can't for the life of me understand why you'd be against them.

Andrew

Because our Golf is 6 years Old and I wouldn't want the Hassle.

Anyway the Cops set up Road Blocks to check DODGY looking cars





[Edited on 28-9-2002 by Flying VW]

helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#4828
Im my opinion, the annual Pink slip checks in NSW are a crock, as they only mean the vehicle is roadworthy on that day at that time. You can borrow some other wheels from a friend if your tyres are dodgy, and I know of one person who has two cars, one which is a mental drag car, and the other a stocky. He takes the stocky in with the plates to get defect notices taken off the other one.
I don't condone what he does, and I know it is fraudulent, but it shows how many loopholes there are in the system.
I am positive that car crashes (not accidents) are caused more often by poor attention span or driving skill than by unroadworthy cars.

Peter
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aggri1 Insano Dub Head

824 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#239759
When my family moved to SA they had to transfer the rego. But that was only when the old one expired I think.

I'm interested in this as I want to keep my current plates but have no idea where I'll be living when the rego is due. If I change my address to SA (folks place), will VicRoads happily take my rego and let me keep my IAR694 black and white original plates (I'm attached to them!)

Aurel

Canni. Wolfsburg Wizard

471 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#239801
I'm interested about this as well... thinking about moving interstate (WA) to study but don't want to loose my cars original plates... so I really want to keep the car rego'd in vic... I was wondering whether it was legal considering if I did move it would be for about 5 years!
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aggri1 Insano Dub Head

824 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#239845
Hey canni, perhaps all us victorian exiles can organise someone's address here to all 'live' at, and then that person forwards us our rego payment bills wherever we happen to live? :P Legal? Oh, right. Yeah maybe not.

david Custom Title Time!

1,013 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#239902
we get that all the time here in albury

[Edited on 30-9-2004 by david]

phantom Wolfsburg Wizard

598 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#240072
In my job interstate moves are a part of life, both for me and my workmates, and this topic comes up a lot between us.

We have all been told a lot and done our own investigation, either to know where we stand legally or just for future knowledge. It comes down to what the particular state agency allows on their paperwork, you will also find that different offices of the same agency make different rules.

As an example, the bug I bought earlier this year was registered in Victoria and I brought it back to southern NSW. I enquired with VICRoads as to whether I could change the rego into my name at my NSW address, until it ran out. They declined it, had to be a VIC address. I then contacted the central VIC number, to be told that if it was inspected by their head office (Melbourne), and I proved that I was in a job that has me moving often, they would consider it. Not wanting to drive this bug back to Melbourne (due to time away from work and unknown condition of the car at the time) I did the running around to change it to NSW. I was told later that a different office would have probably changed it for me.

I've had cars rego'd in NSW, ACT, and QLD, and what you need to look at is basically whether the third party insurer will cover you if you are residing elsewhere. Unfortunately, you will find most times that if you are (for example) registered in QLD and living in NSW, they will void any coverage when they learn of it. But if your paperwork lines up and address on rego is your true address (as in garaging address) you should be OK.

I wouldn't be tip-toeing around and hoping to keep it secret from them, with an aim of 'sorry, didn't realise' if it comes to light....could be too late. Bottom line......ring them and ask for it in writing....if they won't let you change the address to interstate, its for a reason - insurance.

And yes, I too can't wait for a national rego and licencing scheme...
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Oasis Going alone...

1,806 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#240090
There was a rule that you could "live" interstate for up to 12 months on different plates, but that was in the 80s
"Tell him 'We've already got one'"

HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!

3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#240238
There are loopholes and ways to get around almost anything.

If you have a business which has a place of trade in VIC it is usually legally to have all associated vehicles registered in one place.

Problems usually come about once those darlings in insurance companies get involved. If your car is registered in VIC and you live permanently in NSW and you haven't transfered as far as the insurers are concerned you car is neither legally registered or insured! Imagine what hell that could be!

I got hit by a NT registered car by a woman who lived permanently in NSW. She had been here for 12 weeks. I was glad my insurance company handled the litigation and not me! Her insurers refused cover as they considered the car to unregistered.

Funny thing was the cops didn't charge her for unregistered /failure to transfer, that was only the insurance mob that went on with that. They did charge her for failing to provide particulars at the scene, attempt to leave the scene, assault (dropped) - she slapped my passenger, and here is the best one ... provide a false address to the police!