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Chewy Fahrvergnugen

889 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#241870
Hey all.
Whats involved with rebuilding K+L pins? I've got the pins out, the bushes are buggered and the pins are worn.
With rebuild kits, do the bushes just press in and are ready to accept the pins? Or do the bushes require machining to fit the pins??
Any help greatly appreciated
Cheers
Chewy
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Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#241910
basically you pull it all apart and remove the old bushes. Once you have cleaned it all up you simply push in the new bushes which come with the king pins. Once they are in you ream them out to suit the king pins so they are a snug fit, them shim them up and put the link pin assempbly back on.

Before you put the link pin assembly back on do the same to it's bushes or just use the roller link pin bearings and save the hassle or reaming.

All in all you are often better off just getting exchange units from a VW shop. An exchange unit is about $220 and by the time you pay retail for a king and link pin set you are often getting pretty close to this. Add to that the time and tolls required and you see where the $220 becomes a good deal.

I will see if I have a tech article on doing it in the VW manuals.
Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx Australia

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#241914
Make sure you check the stub axles and arms to see if there not bent before replacing any bushes.

the bushes have to be reamed and need a good torelance fit. Not an easy job if you have not done before i would get a VW shop to do it for me.
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Chewy Fahrvergnugen

889 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#242087
Buggy Brad wrote:basically you pull it all apart and remove the old bushes. Once you have cleaned it all up you simply push in the new bushes which come with the king pins. Once they are in you ream them out to suit the king pins so they are a snug fit, them shim them up and put the link pin assempbly back on.

Before you put the link pin assembly back on do the same to it's bushes or just use the roller link pin bearings and save the hassle or reaming.

All in all you are often better off just getting exchange units from a VW shop. An exchange unit is about $220 and by the time you pay retail for a king and link pin set you are often getting pretty close to this. Add to that the time and tolls required and you see where the $220 becomes a good deal.

I will see if I have a tech article on doing it in the VW manuals.
Rebuild kits can be had for $100, I wouldnt expect a machine shop to charge too much for reaming the bushes?? Surely it would end up cheaper to rebuild?

This is going to be an off-road sedan, would the link pin roller bearings survive? Or would it be better to stick with the bushes?
thanks
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Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#243023
$100 for a rebuild kit is good buying so I would grab some of them suckers.

the rollers bearings will last just fine, make sure you keep grease up to them and they will live as long as bushed ones.

A machining shop should't charge to much to ream the bushes if you can find one who is happy to do it and knows what they are doing. Say they charge you $50 then yep you are in front if you do the rest of the work yourself.

Once you have it all back just make sure you shim up the king pin correctly or it will bind up and casue excessive wear. The link pins are easy enough to set up so that is not an issue.

Also check you stub axle to make sure it is straight, they bend quite easily.

I have run roller links on several offroad cars with no issues so far. Will be putting them in the new front end for the manx I intend to destroy next :>..
Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx Australia

Chewy Fahrvergnugen

889 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#243455
Where could I buy these roller bearings from??
Thanks for the help brad
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MickH Hairy Gutted Sloth

3,389 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#243456
Mick Motors sells them🙂
tssnq.com.au

Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#243498
They come with the link pin kit. I don't think u can buy them on their own. But yeah Mick Motors has them.
Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx Australia

helterskelter400 Fahrvergnugen

900 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#243605
what would be a fair price to have both sides both link & king pins done, walk in drop off, pick up and reinstall urslef.