Here are some pics of the wagon. Its got a toyota ct12 turbo 10psi and I just aquired a 200sx cooler. I've taken it out once but suffered high oil temps (don't know why i thought I 'd get away without a bigger oil cooler). With the cooler and stable oil temps more boost!!! I think I can afford on dead engine at least I can test the limits.
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Looks like a cool setup, but if I were you I'd definately go with an extra oil cooler/s turbos really can cook your oil.
Ooh, suits you sir!
I'm just about to venture into this myself......
any tips?
I'm yet to come to any real conclusions other than turbo boost is addictive. I am going to plumb in the intercooler and oil cooler after which I will know more. I'll keep you posted!
Turbo, thats a nice dream of mine. Im just a bit envious... (Type 3's Rule)
Steve
questions questions questions
other than a turbo, whats it got? carb? injection? Where is the oil from the turbo going? Seems low. How are you scavenging oil? What is the turbo off originally? looks small so should be lag free.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
ruebo oil drains into dipstick pipe. Turbo is a toyota ct12 supposed to be good for 110kW though I think that a TD-03 froma forrester could be a goer (~135kW). Haltech E6k
Could you email me some more pics?
noh_20@yahoo.com.au
Tanks!
Nice little install....
Good to see people out there trying something new.....I seem to recall a red fastback back in the early nineties that had a turbo off a Cordia with twin Dellortos...Doing the rounds...In Victoria, I believe....
Just one tip....Keep in touch with Frazer...He's the current budget turbo god!...His old HELLBUS use to haul.....Haven't seen his fastback on the road, but I'm sure that sucker scoots too!
One day I'll get my turbo project finished!
Keep it up!
T3T
where abouts have you located the intercooler? are you keeping it air to air, or will you modify it so that its water to air?
Cheers
type3_turbo wrote:Turbo is a toyota ct12 supposed to be good for 110kW though I think that a TD-03 froma forrester could be a goer (~135kW). Haltech E6k
If that turbo is making enough boost at your rpm limit then leave it at that. My wife keeps telling me that size doesnt matter. But she is wrong. If you go bigger then you will get more lag. For a street car when you want power on demand for overtaking, use the smaller turbo. The only advantage of the bigger one would be lower temps. With either turbo set at 10 psi will make the engine will make same horspower.
Im using the E6 as well. Only I think mine is an A.
Have you got any shots of the whole engine?
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
hey
what is the cost of doin the turbo conversion?????? im thinking of something that will give me around 10-12 psi boost out of a 2L type four? and what work needs doing to the motor itself to withstand it?
cheerrs
rhys
it aint just cool its aircool'd
How much for turbo conversion? How long is a piece of string? I did the conversion myself, with the help of a talented fabricator. The pipework alone cost $1300. The engine is pretty much stock. for 10 - 12 psi you would need lower than 8:1 comp, a good fuel system with plenty of fuel pressure, fuel injection is best, and plenty of spark. I suggest reading some books on turbocharging first. The theory is pretty involved, and you need to match the turbo size to your needs.
Your pipework is all very pretty though. Just mild steel pipework is a lot cheaper. $30ish for each bend. I dont think you need to know the theory cos people like toyota and vw have already done it for you. Just find a turbo off an engine the same size and that part is set. After a turbo, the EFI/carb is your next big expense. then there's your intercooler. Any EFI fuel pump from a wreckers will do the job. A malpassi rising rate fuel pressure regulator is about $75 for a carb version. You need to get a pressure retard canister for your dizzy if not controlled by a computer.
I think if you got all bargain 2nd hand stuff you might be able to get away with $2500.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
and a wastegate if not already built into the turbo.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
2 good reasons for stainless or cast instead of mild steel before turbo.
1. rust.
2. heat retention.
A turbo uses heat to help spin.
Theory is very important to gain optimum performance, exhaust pulse, especially on a four cylinder, helps spool up a turbo quicker, turbulence can affect your high end flow, poor welds and bends can create turbulence. You can fluke a good setup, but why leave it to chance. A poorly thought out turbo setup will shorten the life of your turbo and restrict performance. It is like using a wiper washer nozzle and pump as a carby, it will work, but how well.
The coment re theory was pointed at turbo sizing. But my exhaust has lasted me about 10 years. For $1300 I could make heaps of them. In a baja or buggy you are blessed in that you can stick with equal length pipes and pulsing, but in the real world sometimes we just have to settle for something that fits and looks neat.
Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf
So, why not make the best of a bad situation? Study up and get your system the closest you can to perfect. There are limits but it is worth the effort. I originally had this turbo fitted to my buggy with mild steel pipes, no specific plan, and ended up with a lot less horsepower than I have now. My pipework looking pretty is just a byproduct. Check what all the top turbo installers use. The extra dollars spent here mean less dollars chasing horsepower from other parts of the engine. And mild steel exhaust after the turbo is fine, It is before your turbo that I worry about . A chunk of rust almost destroyed my turbo in the first install. I may just be fussy, but that is my opinion.
i have a mate that is the brains haddent had a chance to talk to him (he makes his own intercoolers exhausts and even made a turbo once!!!!)
so hes the brains just tryin to get a figure!
cheers
rhys
it aint just cool its aircool'd
