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LittleRalph Commited Dubber

57 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#24724
I've been out of the fold for a while and just trying to get back in. Nothing flash but it looks like a nice '74 1300 bug. Only problem is a little rust (don't you hate that) and what appears to be a seized clutch.

Symptoms:
It rolls in neutral but not in any gear even with the clutch pedal on the floor (parked on a fair hill).
Engine runs but can't select any gear while running. Can select all gears with engine off.
Definite normal feel when depressing clutch pedal. (ie feel pressure plate resistance and movement)

I'm after any standard way of "unseizing" it. My thoughts were to either let it roll down the hill a little and slot it into gear (probably 4th) with the clutch depressed and hope it jerks it loose. Or have it in gear with the pedal on the floor and rock it back and forwards (same idea but more gentle and requiring extra people)

Is this a bad thing? ;-(

Please help.

P.S. If I keep reading the rest of this forum I don't think it will stay a stock 1300 bug for long. This is great stuff.

Woozy Seriously Crusin Dubber

118 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#24726
Do you have any resistance when pressing the clutch peddle ?
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LittleRalph Commited Dubber

57 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#24749
Yep. There is normal pressure when depressing the clutch pedal. I would be 99% sure that the pressure plate is operating properly.

geodon Wolfsburg Wizard

478 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#24757
Little Ralph, (any relation to Little Jim from the Goons???) your friction plate is not coming off the flywheel. If its stuck via the plate stuck on the flywheel face it should dislodge by towing in gear & hitting the brakes and clutch together hard & often. But if those fine splines ( why are they so fine cf other cars????) on the friction plate have rusted on the the corresponding splines on the tranny mainshaft, you will probably have to remove the eng & clean & lube it with something like graphite or Moly grease.

[Edited on 5-2-2003 by geodon]

[Edited on 5-2-2003 by geodon]

LittleRalph Commited Dubber

57 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#24759
Thanks geodon.

No relation.

Hoping that method 1 will do the trick. Have had to pull the engine out of almost every beetle I've bought. Was hoping this one might be the exception to the rule (at least for a while)

I'll be back here with either a request for more info or a success story. Hopefully the later.

555bug WRX Bug Boy

1,123 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#24801
what happens if you start it in first gear? the batter will hold out for quite a while. Also I fixed a friends car in which the pressure plate had collapsed, the pedal felt to stiff but the car would roll, change gear (when off) etc.. only when it was running you were unable to change gear due to no clutch.

Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#24830
Sounds like the clutch plate has rusted to the flywheel or pressure plate,

I had a kombi engine that sat for about a year and it did the same, tried every thing to unstick it, rocking in gear, towing in gear with the clutch in, still stuck solid, had to pull the engine and take off the clutch and put it back on, fixed the problem.
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Old Dubber Wolfsburg Wizard

605 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#24842
Have had a few do this, usually the ones sitting up the farm in the open.
Just stick them into 1st gear, hit the starter and drive round a bit, changing the speed up and down. Will eventually break free and is unlikely to do any damage.
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Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#24867
I agree. Just put it in first, and start it in gear. If you have the movement in your ankles, try accelerating, holding the clutch in, and braking all at the same time.
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LittleRalph Commited Dubber

57 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#24869
Thaks for all the suggestions. I pick it up in 2 days so will give them a go then.

I'll keep you posted so that if anyone else with the same problem reads this they'll know the result.

LittleRalph Commited Dubber

57 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#25200
I GOT IT!!!!!!

I finally got my new toy. The clutch is now operating perfectly.

I tried the starting in gear etc but with a 10m long driveway didn't get far. I'm sure it would have worked well had I had the room.

I ended up moving it forward in neutral with the clutch fully in and slipping it into first as it was moving. On the third go it let go.

Problem solved. Thanks for all the advice.

It's now time for ... :beer

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#25217
Congratulation Dude!

have a beer for me!

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OvalGlen Custom Title Time!

1,361 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#25401
cool, and hope this new car of yours can have its engine stay in for long time.
Regards,Glenn>