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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#250465
ive got a 1600 single port with a 30 pict 2 carb and 009 dissy.

im running premium unleaded with additive and was wondering what people would suggest for timing.

at the moment no.1 cylinder fires at the 2nd notch after TDC on the crank pulley. which is 10 degrees ATDC i think. however if i rev it up and let the revs fall quickly i can smell unburnt fuel. however if i retard the timing a little it wont run as well. should i advance it further?

im a complete noob to timing so bear with me please.

Nick
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#250486
7 1/2 deg BTDC static.


Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#250690
ok thanks craig
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4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#250691
If you mean the notch on the R/H side of the TDC it is before top dead centre. As the crank turns, that notch goes past the split in the case first.....so it is before TDC.
7.5 BTDC is the factory spec, but you can get away with 10BTDC, but you should check the full advance which shouldnt be more than 32 BTDC
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Eirinn Goddess of Love

280 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#251755
yeah i meant before TDC my error. it actually wont run as well at 7.5 ive got a flat spot down low which gets better at around 10-11 BTDC and at about 12 BTDC it advances great but ive lost some top end power so i have it at about 10BTDC.

by the way this is nick on eirinns account.

Nick
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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#252327
ok now ive not changed the timing and the car ran fine all weekend and then this morning i just drove to the shop to get some bread and theres a flat spot down low again :cussing the dissy was tight so i dont think its slipped though i will go check. this is pissing me off.
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2,499 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#252344
What about points, are they new or have they slipped?
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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#252347
the points are like new and i have them set at .016 perfect.
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2,499 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#252351
just a thought i had the problem of the points moving and therefore effecting everything. You just need a big set of carbs so you get rid of the flat spots!!!!
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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#252362
yeah i have a feeling the 30 pict 2 is a bit small. hopefully when i get the type 4 2 litre in it will fix my engine woes but i doubt it. and thats not going to be for a while.
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1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#252400
Eirinn wrote:yeah i meant before TDC my error. it actually wont run as well at 7.5 ive got a flat spot down low which gets better at around 10-11 BTDC and at about 12 BTDC it advances great but ive lost some top end power so i have it at about 10BTDC.

by the way this is nick on eirinns account.

Nick
if your carbie as been tuned/adjusted to the incorrect timing............then it will not run as well if you then change the timing !!
Set the timing and then adjust your mixture/idle screws.😉


Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#252442
i didnt think that mixture would change much cause i was only changing the timing by a few degrees but i was wrong jesus it was way out adjusted the mixture and its a rocket again. thanks craig. one thing i have noticed lately though it that when i shut off my engine it makes a "pssss" noise for a second as though pressureised gas is escaping from somewhere. can anyone explain this?
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1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#252460
no worries😉


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2,078 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#252476
Anthiron wrote:one thing i have noticed lately though it that when i shut off my engine it makes a "pssss" noise for a second as though pressureised gas is escaping from somewhere. can anyone explain this?

one piston will be on a compression stroke, that will leakdown and you will hear it from the case breather.

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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#252480
ok cool. thanks
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1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
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