Empi front beam adjusters any good for off-road?

Chewy Fahrvergnugen

889 posts · joined Jul 2004 · 20 Oct 2004, 11:09 am

#249218

Planning on making the front beam adjustable for the baja, will empi ones be up to the job?
Cheers
Chewy

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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 20 Oct 2004, 1:12 pm

#249289

I assume You are going to Higher Your car instead of lower..
I cannot see any reason why not...

Some of the Baja boys should be able to help You..
I have seen this asked before...
I'm not sure what an EMPI adjuster is....
EMPI is now a registered trademark of a Victorian company.
the EMPI parts etc from the USA are Not Authorised...
If its just the round adaptors that are welded inside the torsion tubes with slots for the adjusting grub screws... its just a common accessory...
If its the AVUS type .. they look a better arraingment...

Lee

- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

Chewy Fahrvergnugen

889 posts · joined Jul 2004 · 20 Oct 2004, 1:34 pm

#249299

hey Lee,
Yes I want to raise the car, these are the specific ones I'm talking about
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC%2DC10%2D4031

Do you mean to say that Empi is a Australian company?? Or Victoria as in England Victoria?

The reason I ask is because I have heard some adjusters are not as good quality as Sway-a-way ones and can fail.

What is an AVUS type?
Do you mean AVIS?

Thanks

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Chewy Fahrvergnugen

889 posts · joined Jul 2004 · 20 Oct 2004, 7:18 pm

#249491

???

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Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 21 Oct 2004, 6:47 pm

#250085

yes they will be fine. AN avis style adjuster is the same as what you are looking at.

Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx Australia

johny rotten Officially Full-On Dubber

366 posts · joined Apr 2004 · 21 Oct 2004, 7:35 pm

#250118

Brad u should know that is not any-thing like an Avis adjuster .
the one shown is the crappy type, don't use them , use the Avis type, much stronger.

Chewy Fahrvergnugen

889 posts · joined Jul 2004 · 21 Oct 2004, 8:18 pm

#250147

Can someone link me to one of these avis types.
Thanks

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lugnuts Custom Title Time!

1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 22 Oct 2004, 2:54 am

#250341

http://www.glenn-ring.com/resto/resto9.html :kiss

Desert Moose Cut Cut Cut

2,098 posts · joined Mar 2004 · 22 Oct 2004, 3:49 am

#250343

hey Chewy, I had a set of sway-a-way ones in a race car in 1989 and the car still runs that same beam..it was 6" wider with 4 adjusters and they all work like new. the ones your looking at look the same as the sway-a-way ones.

As for the avis ones... I don't like them, Not that I have had any problems with them because I've never used them. But I like the idea of the bolt and lock nut over the spline plate.
Anyway thats just Me😎

oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 22 Oct 2004, 10:22 am

#250419

Both the tradeing name "Empi" and Wolfsburg" are owned by a bloke in Melbourne. So techically what he is saying is true: Authorised dealer of Empi parts

...and Robert's ya father's brother...

Jenny Officially Full-On Dubber

352 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 22 Oct 2004, 1:44 pm

#250477

Brad shows how to fit the sway-a-way type down the bottom of this page http://www.offroadvw.net/tech/

Chewy Fahrvergnugen

889 posts · joined Jul 2004 · 22 Oct 2004, 1:46 pm

#250478

Thanks a bunch everyone, looks like the Empi's are goin in.
Dont particually like the idea of the AVIS ones, they look like they'd be a bit fiddly
cheers

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Chewy Fahrvergnugen

889 posts · joined Jul 2004 · 22 Oct 2004, 1:57 pm

#250481

Brad, when modifing the bump stops by removing the snubber and cutting down the metal stop, do you need longer travel shocks?
How much more droop than stock can you allow with standard size shocks before the bottem internally?

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Chewy Fahrvergnugen

889 posts · joined Jul 2004 · 26 Oct 2004, 9:20 pm

#252745

thump

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Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Oct 2004, 9:44 pm

#253314

johny rotten wrote:Brad u should know that is not any-thing like an Avis adjuster .
the one shown is the crappy type, don't use them , use the Avis type, much stronger.

Oops to many words not enough thinking ...

Ok to confirm what I actually meant ..

AVIS style adjusters are NO GOOD in an offroad application as you can't add any preload to the spring packs so you can not easily lift the front beam through adjusting.

As for the weld in style adjusters I do not beleive they weaken the beam in anyway you will ever notice. I use "CRAP" ones in all my beams and have never had one break. They are only as strong as the weld which holds them in.

Chewy, when you fit the adjusters and cut off the bump stops you move the top shock mount to allow the arm to go lower without the shock hitting it. You can still use standard shocks or use rear IRS ones on the front for better travel.

To check the down travel of the shocks test them with the leaves out of the front end.

Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx Australia

Chewy Fahrvergnugen

889 posts · joined Jul 2004 · 28 Oct 2004, 10:30 am

#253529

thanks Brad
:beer

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Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 Oct 2004, 7:53 pm

#253819

no probs we do exchaneg beam if that helps but postage would be a killer.

Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx Australia

Chewy Fahrvergnugen

889 posts · joined Jul 2004 · 28 Oct 2004, 8:33 pm

#253837

nah, shes right. Mates got a cut-off saw and a Mig :bounce

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Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 31 Oct 2004, 9:51 am

#255263

Just make sure you clean the inside of the beam before welding it or you will end up with welds full of impurities which will weaken it significantly.

You only need to clean it back a few inches, just to get rid of the huge amount of grease in there.

Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx Australia