About these new drug tests

sax · 2004-12-15T12:38:30+00:00

Just heard on the news, the first bloke who got done by a roadside drug bus reckons he was innocent. I was wondering how long it would take. The problem is they are supposed to be checking for recent (3 hours) drug use but this guy claimed to have smoked a month before and is still showing up positive. Either that or he is lying, who knows. Now don't get me wrong, I support RBT and reluctantly support this new drug testing too but it's the thin of the wedge no matter how accurate or otherwise the proceedure may be. Let's put aside the actual issue of taking drugs (or booze) and getting behind the wheel, I believe some drivers stoned off their brain are still heaps safer and more competent than a totally sober person who simply can't drive for shit. A factoid my friends and one which will never be stated on the evening news. I see it every day as I spend a good 10-12 hours behind the wheel in some of the worst traffic imaginable. They just can't control a car or they have no confidence in themselves or their vehicles. Ever wonder why they take corners in a modern car at walking speed in case it tips over on them? Bloody frustrating but hey, at least they won't get a ' speeding' fine and we all know that is the only thing that saves lives. But I digress. Since we now live in a police state, it's easy to imagine what can come next from these newfound powers of stop and spittle. If you get done for DUI (booze) it's a crim record, big deal. So many people of all walks of life have been done for drink drive it's now acceptable and life moves on. Nobody stopped employing B... N..... because he got caught. Nobody cares. " DRINK DRIVING, ITS NOT BAD LUCK ITS A CRIME" yes but it doesn't do much except stuff up your insurance. Now, getting caught for DUI (drugz) will also incur a fine, some points and a mark on your driving record. What happens when a person is required to produce their licence record for a driving job? Having heaps of traffic offences is bad enough (my driving record is only available on CD, too many pages) but if a drug driving offence shows up it will instantly flag you as a drug user to the prospective employer. " NEXT APPLICANT PLEEZE" Now if employers can ask for this document on the pretext of maybe letting you drive a company car once in a while, it all starts to turn ugly. We are then in the same situation as the USSA with drug testing for a job. They look at your driving record, see a DUI offence and if it's the socially unacceptable DUI (drugs) then they have the perfect reason to pass you over on the basis that you are a drug user. All because you enjoy a puff and got detected with it on your tongue during an undignified roadside medical proceedure. Same for speed users, sure it's illegal but if it keeps a truckie awake and on the road (instead of running off and causing carnage) than so be it. I haven't even touched on the DNA implications of all this, scary times ahead I feel. For the record I have driven in various states of sobriety and have been a professional driver all my working life so I think I may be close to understanding the subject. All too depressing, I'm off to pack the teapot with some Tetleys.....

Luftkühlte Learner Dubber

13 posts · joined Dec 2004 · 22 Dec 2004, 11:54 pm

#283283

Excellent thread. Unfortunately, we still choose to live here, so we must abide by the rules, or face the consequenses.

I think most people would think twice if it came down to imbibing a drug vs crashing and injuring/killing someone else/themselves. Unfortunately there are no crystal balls.

Prevention better than cure?

Only a trial in Vic, coming to NSW and QLD in the next few months.

Why would you want to drive your VW while influenced by drugs? Its great enough as it is, no?!

warb gimme some butter im on a roll.....

1,983 posts · joined May 2003 · 23 Dec 2004, 12:00 am

#283287

Mr De Jong said he was considering legal action against police.

I hope he sues the pigs....

57kombi Hannover Elder

2,544 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 23 Dec 2004, 8:34 am

#283351

Its replies like this that show how STUPID some people are.
Fact, he admited taking the drugs but 4 weeks before he got tested.
Fact, he still broke the law.

So they messed up with the test.

FACT, he still broke the law.
How many times do you want me to type it???

Grow up.

And we wonder why some vw people give the others a bad name.

Cheers
Dave

penguin ackkkkkk thhhhhpt!

3,383 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 23 Dec 2004, 9:20 am

#283372

I deleted what I had written. obviously there are some who believe one thing, and some who believe somethign else. there is little I can say to convince people of my side of the arguement, and nothing that others could do to change my opinion on this.
Good luck with your lifestyles.

[Edited on 22-12-2004 by penguin]

'Ah, whatever................'

Dave_Bugz Commited Dubber

51 posts · joined Aug 2004 · 23 Dec 2004, 11:28 am

#283401

my 2 cents.

I have no trouble checking the speed limit. It takes half a second to read the sings. big deal.

Fact is that alot of people arent responsible enough to drive safley. All the graphic TAC comercials in the world wont get through to them. The only thing that will stop them is the threat of them getting a fine. I lost one of my best mates at the end of year 12, speeding. My best mates little brother just lost two of his best mates this week, speeding and drink diving. Three of my mates should be dead, one of them fell asleep after a big night and rolled his hi lux 5 times, the other drove home from the pub and wrapped his car around a pole, the others car got totaled when he got colected by a speeding firetruck which was going too fast through a red light (they are allowed to go through but not at 80 ks)

none of this would have happend if people slowed down, got a taxi, or had a nap. Common sense. I take the occasional drug, but when I do its at my own risk (I know what im doing). As soon as you hop in the car, your putting everyone else at risk.

The roads are a public place, when I drive on them, I should have a right to know that the bloke heading towards me on the other side of the road is sober, not tired, and will be able to react quick enough if something goes wrong.

They puit a speed camera up our street (not a busy one) and everyone kicked up a huge stink. Fact is, at least my mum was safe for that week. Our driveway is just after a steep crest and its hard enough to know when its safe to pull out when people are doing 50 let alone the irrisponsible, immature clowns that fly down at 100. I've got mates that fly down here and I hate it. Me saying "if my mums pulling out of the driveway you will most certainly kill her" is not enough to get through, the only time they eve slow down is if they know the pigs are out collecting revenue. Its the sad truth. And yes occasionaly blokes are getting fined for being 5 ks over when they are usualy good drivers but what else you gonna do? small price to pay when ives are at steak. You've got to draw the line somewhere.

why dont chicks did bugs? dam ricers have no class 🙂