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oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#350996
Should I get a master cylinder manufactured in the Fatherland or Partyland? The price difference is about $100. I've had Brazilian brake hoses before and you could see the quality difference.

I've been told by a few VW shops that they've had no troubles with the Brazilian masters too...

so, what should I buy for my 54?
...and Robert's ya father's brother...

Robo Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,491 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#350998
I wouldn't touch Brazilian. I used to get their wheel cylinders, but I never got the same life out of them, as I did with German. The German one's last heaps longer.
Rob...
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johny rotten Officially Full-On Dubber

366 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#351000
Brazil Hydraulic brake stuff is fine /Varga..
but the brazil brake drums are crap

fetid_swamp Seriously Crusin Dubber

174 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#351027
so its like $70 for brazil vs $170 for german. go german/quality for these essential items. ive used a mix of mehico & brazil wheel cyl & master cyl (but with good aussie flex & solid lines). i am ru-ing the folly of my tight arse tuesday ways....

~air fooled~ two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl

1,429 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#351412
just save the hassle and get it rekitted....
everything dies baby, thats a fact..
maybe everything that dies one day comes back..
put your make up on and your hair up pretty..
and meet me tonight in Atlantic city..

oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#351419
rekitted?
...and Robert's ya father's brother...

MikeM Buggy Head

1,429 posts · joined Aug 2003 ·

#351427
oval TOFU wrote:rekitted?
Take your current master to a Brake Place and get the to "Kit" it. This usually means putting new seals etc in it but if its rusty they will bore it and use a stainless liner. This is a good thing as it will probably last forever with a stainless liner.


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57kombi Hannover Elder

2,544 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#351489
I have just bought 6 brake cylinders from PBR in Adelaide, they are made in spain but they re-sleeve them with stainless bits and they are great. Also they had them in stock for an early split whose brakes were differant after 63.

Cheers
Dave

oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#351808
The current one I have in my 54 is a Varga branded one from Brasil (isn't the Varga Girl Zippo's mascot icon?.. anyways...) "rekitted"- yeh, I presumed it meant resleeving it etc. The quote i got for resleeving it was nearly the same as a new german master, so, I've listened to the tribe and ordered a german ATE master.. just one less thing to worry about in the long run I suppose. I compared a brazilian brake hose to a german one: when held out horizontaly by one end, the brazilian hose would droop way past 45 degrees from the horizontal plane. The german one however, had considerably less flex than this. hmmmm you pay for what you get me thinks....

How much did you pay Dave?
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57kombi Hannover Elder

2,544 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#352023
$53 each cylinder. with a 2 year guarantee.
Early kombis have 2 in each front wheel so the whole lot cost just over $300.
4 for the front and 2 for the back(the back are type 3 ones)

Cheers
Dave

oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#352166
Oh, I thought you were talking about master cylinders - I had my wheel cylinders resleeved for about $35 each - pretty good price I thought. Warranty never goes astray... 🙂
57kombi wrote:$53 each cylinder. with a 2 year guarantee.
Early kombis have 2 in each front wheel so the whole lot cost just over $300.
4 for the front and 2 for the back(the back are type 3 ones)

Cheers
Dave
...and Robert's ya father's brother...

jakjones Officially Full-On Dubber

217 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#352310
57kombi wrote:$53 each cylinder. with a 2 year guarantee.
Early kombis have 2 in each front wheel so the whole lot cost just over $300.
4 for the front and 2 for the back(the back are type 3 ones)

Cheers
Dave
gees you got gouged :P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P

57kombi Hannover Elder

2,544 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#352317
tosser

oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#353087
hmmm
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BajaChris Commited Dubber

62 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#353153
MikeM wrote:
oval TOFU wrote:rekitted?
Take your current master to a Brake Place and get the to "Kit" it. This usually means putting new seals etc in it but if its rusty they will bore it and use a stainless liner. This is a good thing as it will probably last forever with a stainless liner.
Just make sure that the place doing the re-sleaving knows what they are doing. I've seen more than a few of these sleaved master cyl.s leak between the liner and the original bore.
Volksclub Bendigo

oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#354070
will do. This german one shouldn't give me any trouble - I've used the same brand (ATE) of brake hoses and they were really good quality... presuming the standard crosses all products... fingers crossed
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