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RENNWAGEN Seriously Crusin Dubber

158 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#353454
Ive just been told by a supplier I was looking to by solenoids fom that shaved door handles are ilegal in some states. Has anybody had any experience with this in NSW?

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#353489
Why would they be Illegal.... there fitted to just about every make of modern car

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HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!

3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#353497
He means no handle/latch... just a solendoid....

warb gimme some butter im on a roll.....

1,983 posts · joined May 2003 ·

#353501
i think he means no handles at all... and use a remote/solenoid to open the door..

warb gimme some butter im on a roll.....

1,983 posts · joined May 2003 ·

#353502
ha.. there you go..

HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!

3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#353504
Blake Hoggert got his Transporter approved without handles.

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#353511
dont see why they would be illegal.... but you all know the government
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Oasis Going alone...

1,806 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#353529
You mean like this....

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FATBUG Slammed & Awesome Dubber

82 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#353534
You are aloud to have them ALSONG as you have an EMERGANCY door release on the outside of the vehicle.
So in other words you have a button on the outside of the vehicle that allows you to open the doors other then the remote.
Though im pritty sure you HAVE to get a engineers cert. But to pass for an engineers you need that emergancy release on the outside of the vehicle.
Alot of work and prob not worth it unless you have the time of day and can physically see other cars with them to get an idea.

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7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#353551
FATBUG wrote:You are aloud to have them ALSONG as you have an EMERGANCY door release on the outside of the vehicle.
So in other words you have a button on the outside of the vehicle that allows you to open the doors other then the remote.
Though im pritty sure you HAVE to get a engineers cert. But to pass for an engineers you need that emergancy release on the outside of the vehicle.
Alot of work and prob not worth it unless you have the time of day and can physically see other cars with them to get an idea.
yeah if you were in a whack and they needed you out quick, how would they open da door from da outside?

might seem trivial but if my car was 'heaven forbid' on fire
i want someone to be able to open the door to get me or my family/dog/original log books out of the thing before it goes "im melting"
maybe thats why govt. dept has the rule
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helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#353632
It happened to a Hot Rod in Melbourne just over a year ago. Rod crashed, battery was dislodged, sparked, fuel line dislodged, fire. The solenoids on the doors would not open and the chop top was too low for the driver and passenger to get out of any window openings. Well it was a sad day as you can understand what the outcome was.
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RENNWAGEN Seriously Crusin Dubber

158 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#353666
There would be a similar ending if the doors were locked yeah.

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FATBUG Slammed & Awesome Dubber

82 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#355434
Personally i like shaved doors but when it comes to safty and if it was a car i was driving everyday i would not do it.

57kombi Hannover Elder

2,544 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#355477
As was said before, this is why we have design rules.

Would you let your child/mother/relative go in a car that if they had an accident there might not be a way to get them out quickly???

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Marrs_7 Slammed & Awesome Dubber

90 posts · joined May 2005 ·

#361622
What then if the person was unconcious and you couldnt get to them?
Mel

Marrs_7 Slammed & Awesome Dubber

90 posts · joined May 2005 ·

#361623
lol I had the window open to this page and didnt refresh before posting :P
Mel

Oasis Going alone...

1,806 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#361673
Hey Mike, My car is white in my pic :P
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ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·

#366956
I had shaved handles on a beetle in the UK some years back, only had the solenoid on the drivers side, passenger door still had the normal internal handle. To operate the drivers door from outside was with a magnet via a hidden reed switch and from inside by a big button on the dash, the passenger door you simply opened from inside. I understand the safety aspect but if I was in a burning vehicle and unconscious I would not be terribly upset if someone smashed the window to get me out! Plus on a funnier aspect of it, once the car was outside and got completely buried in snow, at the time I was concerned as to whether or not the solenoid would work but that ended up not being the problem as that worked fine what was the problem was that the door was frozen shut and there wasn't a door handle to pull on!!!

its63b Seriously Crusin Dubber

150 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#378043
my mate recently got defected for having shaved doors on his mini truck,$250 fine and was made to put handles back on,they look sweet shaved but you need to know how to dodge cops..this was in newcastle nsw by the way-isaac

jarnkm Learner Dubber

3 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#453760
Helbus wrote:The problem was these rod doors had no way of being opened once the battery was disconnected. You may ask, then what did the owner do if the battery went flat, well the battery was acessible from the outside.
I would be sure that there are some pics of this vehicle around. Would there be a chance of viewing any?

The idea of ignoring the need for both an internal and external manual connection, usually a cable of sorts, to any door locking/opening mechanism is both ludicrous and totally stupid. Every shop should refuse to do the job w/o using them and the driver/owner should be severely fined if discovered, in any manner, without them.

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