Found a cool article in Vw trends (some may have already seen it).
http://www.vwtrendsweb.com/features/0405vwt_hotrod/
64vwmark Fahrvergnugen
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Beach Buggy
74 L Beetle
Mk4 Golf
How to build a Volks Rod
Beach Buggy
74 L Beetle
Mk4 Golf
HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!
3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
How to turn a do-it-yourself creative individual sub-scene into another cookie-cutter "look".
bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6
6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
They look mad!!! Would it be legal and able to be certified to remove the fender's though?😠
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69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
greenbug70 Seriously Crusin Dubber
103 posts · joined Nov 2003 ·
How good do they look in paticular those Fred Hidalgo jobs
proper preparation prevents piss poor performance
E Officially Full-On Dubber
232 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·
What's wrong with making the rod accesible to the masses? Wouldn't it be a good thing as opposed to a bad?
I'm sure the only people who would benefit would be the inviduals you speak of who aren't too mechanically competent, why should they be denied this knowledge?
I'm sure the only people who would benefit would be the inviduals you speak of who aren't too mechanically competent, why should they be denied this knowledge?
Reality leaves alot to the Imagination
HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!
3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Because it becomes a cancer of sameness as per cal-look.E wrote:What's wrong with making the rod accesible to the masses?
The whole point is that there is no "look" or rules. Individuality and enginuity are what it is about.
barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem
9,476 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·
no the adrs state that it has to have guards even if they are the bolt on style like on the super sevensmynameischris88 wrote:They look mad!!! Would it be legal and able to be certified to remove the fender's though?😠
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bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6
6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
That sux balls so bad. These adrs can be so frustrating and constricting.
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69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem
9,476 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·
but they are there for safety plus this would fall in to there icv catagory which means it would have to meet the current adrs
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WABaja Call ME when you need a TOW
824 posts · joined Nov 2004 ·
barls wrote:this would fall in to there icv catagory which means it would have to meet the current adrs
What makes you think that...???
I hate to admit it, but man, I think you're right....
barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem
9,476 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·
cause its exactly the same as grafting a kombi body rear end on a bug as its a major modification of the body it has to comply with the latest adrs. am i wrong????
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HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!
3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Not necessarilly barls.
With certain conditions the wheel base can be extended and the body dramatically changed and still remain a modified production.
Hell even a mid mounted V8 in stretched bus didn't have to go ICV.
If you go doing things without an engineer consulting during the plan and build you might end up with something that has to be ICV. If you bring them in early they'll tell you where to go with what and avoid it.
With certain conditions the wheel base can be extended and the body dramatically changed and still remain a modified production.
Hell even a mid mounted V8 in stretched bus didn't have to go ICV.
If you go doing things without an engineer consulting during the plan and build you might end up with something that has to be ICV. If you bring them in early they'll tell you where to go with what and avoid it.
barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem
9,476 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·
thanks matt i knew it was a grey area only cause the old man and i are looking at building the bug bus but this is what stopped us for the moment, well that and chaos' rebuild btw he should be back from the painters next week.
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HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!
3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
barls.... email me about the bug bus.... might know something for you...
barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem
9,476 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·
done you now have email
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bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6
6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
Thats right, i was told that as well about the adrs, and ICVs.
Apparently if you shorten the chassis (like with a buggy), its classed as an ICV. But if you lengthen the chassis (like a limo) its ok.
I don't see the logic in it though, i mean, either way you a building a whole new vehicle. You would think that lengthening the chassis to make a limo would be more concerning than shortening, cause it would need some heck of strength to hold the chassis flat, and to not sag in the middle.
Well, in these cases, the best thing to do is consult an engineer. What type of engineer? Mechanical?
Apparently if you shorten the chassis (like with a buggy), its classed as an ICV. But if you lengthen the chassis (like a limo) its ok.
I don't see the logic in it though, i mean, either way you a building a whole new vehicle. You would think that lengthening the chassis to make a limo would be more concerning than shortening, cause it would need some heck of strength to hold the chassis flat, and to not sag in the middle.
Well, in these cases, the best thing to do is consult an engineer. What type of engineer? Mechanical?
(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
Dasdubber DAS Resto Haus
5,746 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
mynameischris88 wrote:Well, in these cases, the best thing to do is consult an engineer. What type of engineer? Mechanical?
Automotive engineer
Bugs Casual Dubber
48 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·
I know (from personal experience) that NSW and ACT rego requirements for fenderless VW's is as follows:
The vehicle must have guards that cover the width of the tyres.
The use of Hot Rod (cycle) style guards is acceptable provided the front guards cover 3 quarters of the circumference of the wheel and must be no more than 300mm from the ground at the rear of the guard. The same should apply to the rear wheels, however my engineer request that 180 degrees of the rear wheel circumference be covered again having no more than 300mm gap between the ground and the bottom of the guard at the rear.
These guards must also be able to move at the front with the steering.
Hope this helps.
BTW - I have for sale some guards and brackets that do not cover the required circumferences but can be used post inspection and look cool. They also give you a good idea of how to make the guards meet the ADR's and with a bit of tin plate this can be done using these brackets quite easily. I had other issues with my car which resulted in me having to remove these parts otherwise they would still be on. Asking $80 for the lot, buyer pays freight ph 0439 45 3399.
The vehicle must have guards that cover the width of the tyres.
The use of Hot Rod (cycle) style guards is acceptable provided the front guards cover 3 quarters of the circumference of the wheel and must be no more than 300mm from the ground at the rear of the guard. The same should apply to the rear wheels, however my engineer request that 180 degrees of the rear wheel circumference be covered again having no more than 300mm gap between the ground and the bottom of the guard at the rear.
These guards must also be able to move at the front with the steering.
Hope this helps.
BTW - I have for sale some guards and brackets that do not cover the required circumferences but can be used post inspection and look cool. They also give you a good idea of how to make the guards meet the ADR's and with a bit of tin plate this can be done using these brackets quite easily. I had other issues with my car which resulted in me having to remove these parts otherwise they would still be on. Asking $80 for the lot, buyer pays freight ph 0439 45 3399.
kustomkool BEING KOOL AINT CHEAP
1,611 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·
my ride will be driven to shows on a permit and will not run gaurds.I just think it takes the hardcore out of it.
decked dubby Custom Title Time!
1,046 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
You rule kustomkool!!!
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64vwmark Fahrvergnugen
930 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·
In the article one car has a standard chassis with a shortened body. With a standard chassis you won't be classed as a ICV. They shorten the body behind the B pillar (behind the doors). I think it looks alright too.mynameischris88 wrote:Thats right, i was told that as well about the adrs, and ICVs.
Apparently if you shorten the chassis (like with a buggy), its classed as an ICV. But if you lengthen the chassis (like a limo) its ok.
I don't see the logic in it though, i mean, either way you a building a whole new vehicle. You would think that lengthening the chassis to make a limo would be more concerning than shortening, cause it would need some heck of strength to hold the chassis flat, and to not sag in the middle.
Beach Buggy
74 L Beetle
Mk4 Golf
kustomkool BEING KOOL AINT CHEAP
1,611 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·
No decked you rule buddy.And where the fuck you been kat...
decked dubby Custom Title Time!
1,046 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Dude i've been flat out busy with work. Just started back on airbagging my beetle so thought i better jump back into this whole vw thing again.
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kustomkool BEING KOOL AINT CHEAP
1,611 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·
Baggin a bug hey mad shit.Im rodding a bug as you probably gathered.
kustomkool BEING KOOL AINT CHEAP
1,611 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·
speakin of bagin gonna run in the notch looking the custom coachworks kit with the narrowed type 1 beam a mate in the states runs in in a squareback ...looks the shiat...
zayus Wolfsburg Wizard
437 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Getting back to fenders & registration. Is it posible to have a VW Rod classified as a Hot Rod? I was told a long time ago that Hot Rods have have different regulations to "normal" street cars. Man, cause there a plenty of Hot Rods running around with no fenders.
Zayus
Zayus
WABaja Call ME when you need a TOW
824 posts · joined Nov 2004 ·
No.. Most states in Oz only recognise Pre 1948 cars as "Hot Rods"..😏
If you want to cut up a Pre 48 Beetle, you might get away with it,
but if you get murdered in your bed by Purists Sceaming something about Zwit or Heb'
or some such obscure terminology..
Don't come back from the dead to tell us you weren't warned...!!!!👍
If you want to cut up a Pre 48 Beetle, you might get away with it,
but if you get murdered in your bed by Purists Sceaming something about Zwit or Heb'
or some such obscure terminology..
Don't come back from the dead to tell us you weren't warned...!!!!👍
I hate to admit it, but man, I think you're right....
sneak_e Officially Full-On Dubber
252 posts · joined Nov 2004 ·
'BUGS' - how is your ride going? Got any pics to send us of it cruising the streets of the ACT?
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