Kombi_Rescue Wolfsburg Wizard
440 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·
preacherman my 23dlx has the same built day 02 03 1 with chassis number 743685...making it 86 cars apart..cheers dsk steve..also same colour combo..hope to post pics
23 WINDOW....Pics.. AND NOW..RESTORATION UPDATE
preacherman Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·
The colour of my 23 window....thought I would never say that term...is the same as Kieren's 23 Devon Camper that featured on the cover of VW Australia.
An interesting story about Kieran and his 23 window. I moved over recently from WA and just after Chrstmas 2003 my now wife and I were driving through the town of Margaret River in Wa which is famous for it's Surf Classic and wine.
We were lost and wnated to drive thru the town. I was talking to my fiance and was saying how much i wanted a 23 window and she said we will just have to kep looking.....a perfect partner in every way eh!
Well we got to the bottom of the main road thru town and we realised we were on the wrong exit out of town and we had to do a U turn at a picnic area. MY JAW JUST DROPPED AT THE SIGHT OF A SEALING WAX RED 23 WINDOW, fresh from restoration parked at the picnic ares.
We stopped and spoke with Kieran his wife and family and i took heaps of pictures. I hope he does not mine me posting a couple of ones here. Kieran was great and after he told me of his trials in restoring it I did not have the heart to ask if it was for sale. It was just such an amazing coincidence.
I fell in love with the colour scheme BTW and hoped that one day I would get a 23 and paint it the same colour. Imagine my joy to find out the the 23 I have just bought IS THE VERY SAME COLOUR FROM NEW. Kieran's 23 inspired me and I hope I could get mine half as nice as his.
I wish all of you well who have the same dream and I will let the forum know if I come across another one in my travels
BAck to drooling
An interesting story about Kieran and his 23 window. I moved over recently from WA and just after Chrstmas 2003 my now wife and I were driving through the town of Margaret River in Wa which is famous for it's Surf Classic and wine.
We were lost and wnated to drive thru the town. I was talking to my fiance and was saying how much i wanted a 23 window and she said we will just have to kep looking.....a perfect partner in every way eh!
Well we got to the bottom of the main road thru town and we realised we were on the wrong exit out of town and we had to do a U turn at a picnic area. MY JAW JUST DROPPED AT THE SIGHT OF A SEALING WAX RED 23 WINDOW, fresh from restoration parked at the picnic ares.
We stopped and spoke with Kieran his wife and family and i took heaps of pictures. I hope he does not mine me posting a couple of ones here. Kieran was great and after he told me of his trials in restoring it I did not have the heart to ask if it was for sale. It was just such an amazing coincidence.
I fell in love with the colour scheme BTW and hoped that one day I would get a 23 and paint it the same colour. Imagine my joy to find out the the 23 I have just bought IS THE VERY SAME COLOUR FROM NEW. Kieran's 23 inspired me and I hope I could get mine half as nice as his.
I wish all of you well who have the same dream and I will let the forum know if I come across another one in my travels
BAck to drooling
preacherman Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·
HELP can someone give me a step by step way to make pics smaller so that I can post them on this thread/forum please
squizy Thinking about another dub...maybe
4,082 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·
You can host them on photobucket.com - that way you won't have to reduce them.
Well done on your find too.....I am envious. So now, a triple cab and a 23 window.
Well done on your find too.....I am envious. So now, a triple cab and a 23 window.
VolksFolks Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,869 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·
lindon
you got paint?
if so right click on image
open with paint
click on image up the top
click scetch/skew
if those pics you sent me are your cameras default size then..
70 horizontal
70 vertical
Enter.
save pic as (choose a name)
look in my pictures (or where you saved too)
check size, should be under 50ks
from avd browse blah blah blah
you get my drift, if not send them to me again
Andy
you got paint?
if so right click on image
open with paint
click on image up the top
click scetch/skew
if those pics you sent me are your cameras default size then..
70 horizontal
70 vertical
Enter.
save pic as (choose a name)
look in my pictures (or where you saved too)
check size, should be under 50ks
from avd browse blah blah blah
you get my drift, if not send them to me again
Andy
They laugh because You are different, You laugh because They are all the same.
check out www.lowlight.com.au for low lights only..
check out www.lowlight.com.au for low lights only..
Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l
12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Preacherman
you have mail
you have mail
Futue te ipsum!!!
VolksFolks Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,869 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·
More Pics, preacher will explain
Andy
Andy
They laugh because You are different, You laugh because They are all the same.
check out www.lowlight.com.au for low lights only..
check out www.lowlight.com.au for low lights only..
preacherman Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·
thanks Andy
Preach
Preach
Zimblewinder Seriously Crusin Dubber
109 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·
HMMMMM NIIICE!
Lovely deeeeeep SWR!!! CANT WAIT!
Which paint did he use? Does anyone know? Its a pain to match and it ages really badly if its even a tad off (Im told). Ive bitten the bullet and will top coat in OG code Glasurit. Not looking forward to that bill:repuke
Lovely deeeeeep SWR!!! CANT WAIT!
Which paint did he use? Does anyone know? Its a pain to match and it ages really badly if its even a tad off (Im told). Ive bitten the bullet and will top coat in OG code Glasurit. Not looking forward to that bill:repuke
preacherman Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·
Kieran told me he had it sprayed 3 TIMES before he was happy with the result. I don' t think I am be able to do that so I will call him and get some info and post it. Yeah he did a great job on it eh!
vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday
16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Thats a good looking project ... Deluxe Microbus
Hope you dont loose faith with the car and trying to find all the correct bits for it
so what area did the bus actually come from ???
Hope you dont loose faith with the car and trying to find all the correct bits for it
so what area did the bus actually come from ???
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409
preacherman Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·
Hey Dave
The 23 has been in Victoria for most and possibly all of it's life. An old guy owned it for a long time and after some time(probably when the engine dies or whatever, he took off the steering wheel, gear lever etc and, I think, ran an A frame from it's rear and towed it as a camper!!!! Bizarre eh! The engine was taken out and a plate of steel was used to fill the hole in the engine bay. this area was then used as a storage area. Man the mind boggles and shows how valueless these vehicles were at one time.
It is going to take a while to return to it's former glory.
The 23 has been in Victoria for most and possibly all of it's life. An old guy owned it for a long time and after some time(probably when the engine dies or whatever, he took off the steering wheel, gear lever etc and, I think, ran an A frame from it's rear and towed it as a camper!!!! Bizarre eh! The engine was taken out and a plate of steel was used to fill the hole in the engine bay. this area was then used as a storage area. Man the mind boggles and shows how valueless these vehicles were at one time.
It is going to take a while to return to it's former glory.
VDUBXTC Tea Bag
3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·
Great score preach.
good to see you finally getting one.
See good things happen when you move to the beat state in the country. NSW :P
much more buying opertunities than in WA.
good to see you finally getting one.
See good things happen when you move to the beat state in the country. NSW :P
much more buying opertunities than in WA.
preacherman Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·
Thanks Jace. WA......where's that!! Maybe I should have come over a few years ago and then I would be actually driving one by now.
A Bit of News to Cheer the Heart of every Father
My son has joined the FORCE!! My first splitty was a blue ex RAAF splitty I ran for a while and sold to get my 15 window. The guy whobought it was so keen he did not even want to try it out in a drive and did not heggle re privce either.
Well his infatuation lasted a few months and he put it up for sale for half what he apid for it to get rid of it. My son saw the ad andwent and bought it back AND LOVES IT. It starts first time, every time and being a mechanic he has access to what he needs to keep it on the road. He wants to lower it and just go surfin!!
NOW THAT IS A FEEL GOOD STORY, my father passed my love of VW's down to me and now his grandson follows his steps. He has joined the forum too and will post pics of the Splitty
OH YEAH!!
A Bit of News to Cheer the Heart of every Father
My son has joined the FORCE!! My first splitty was a blue ex RAAF splitty I ran for a while and sold to get my 15 window. The guy whobought it was so keen he did not even want to try it out in a drive and did not heggle re privce either.
Well his infatuation lasted a few months and he put it up for sale for half what he apid for it to get rid of it. My son saw the ad andwent and bought it back AND LOVES IT. It starts first time, every time and being a mechanic he has access to what he needs to keep it on the road. He wants to lower it and just go surfin!!
NOW THAT IS A FEEL GOOD STORY, my father passed my love of VW's down to me and now his grandson follows his steps. He has joined the forum too and will post pics of the Splitty
OH YEAH!!
preacherman Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·
Being determined to be a 1961 9 seater Deluxe Microbus (thanks Matera) .. Did a Deluxe Splitty of this vintage have a bench seat up front or a 2/1 split front seat? The pics on page on show the holes left in the cab through removal of the seat brackets..does this help?
Would the correct bumpers be rounded or have the kink in it? and was the end slashed or rounded.
Thanks for the info
Would the correct bumpers be rounded or have the kink in it? and was the end slashed or rounded.
Thanks for the info
vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday
16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Man the mind boggles and shows how valueless these vehicles were at one time.
yeah i know ... I cut one up in about 1976 or so.... I used the bits ... to restore a Panel van bus which i drove for a few years B4 i traded it in on a Bay window micro bus
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409
preacherman Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·
Hey Dave
That story is the stuff nightmares are made of eh!! There are a few horror stories like that around too.
That story is the stuff nightmares are made of eh!! There are a few horror stories like that around too.
vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday
16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Well i figured the Van had less rust in it I had it taken to the tip... was probally better than the one you have DOH !!!!
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409
SPRINTSTAR Insano Dub Head
804 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
I had a mint 63 ambulance complete with stretchers, took the steering wheel out and sold the vehicle for $350.00 and I even left the fan in it!
humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism
3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Hey Lindon, Simon here in WA.... Sad to hear that Ernie must go to a new home, such a nice 15 that bus!!! But hey, look at what you have found!!!! Congratulations!!!
Mark still has Burt as his driver, and is so enjoying it! IRS and disc brakes in a Deluxe, do make for a nice driving expierence! Looks like you have a nice little project on the go, and very tidy it is too....A neat bus.
As for Kierans Devon paint....2pak with 2pak top coat. And yes he did have it painted 3 times....Once about 10 years ago and then twice when it was at Belmont TAFE paint shop....Matching the 'Sealing Wax' was tough, but the Grey was real bear!!! I might be able to get the formula's for you if you like (Kieran has just gone for a drive up to Monkey Mia for a month!!!)...He didn't really want to go 2pak, but that was all they did at the TAFE! No one does cellulose these days!
By the way....You spot the splittys in the landscape pick at the end of the article in VWMA? See Marks 15 and Antonys Micro???? And our better sides! That was good day that!
Mark still has Burt as his driver, and is so enjoying it! IRS and disc brakes in a Deluxe, do make for a nice driving expierence! Looks like you have a nice little project on the go, and very tidy it is too....A neat bus.
As for Kierans Devon paint....2pak with 2pak top coat. And yes he did have it painted 3 times....Once about 10 years ago and then twice when it was at Belmont TAFE paint shop....Matching the 'Sealing Wax' was tough, but the Grey was real bear!!! I might be able to get the formula's for you if you like (Kieran has just gone for a drive up to Monkey Mia for a month!!!)...He didn't really want to go 2pak, but that was all they did at the TAFE! No one does cellulose these days!
By the way....You spot the splittys in the landscape pick at the end of the article in VWMA? See Marks 15 and Antonys Micro???? And our better sides! That was good day that!
preacherman Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·
Hey Simon..good to hear from you...Long live NoH20 in WA.
I would appreciate the formulae for the paint as I will be going down the same track. I don't blame people switching to 2 pak. All that poloshing and you had to have a perfect finish. As far as I know with 2 pak you ahve a herder finish and you are actually polishing the clear...am I right??
Great avitar Simon..long live your beetle. I have yet to obtain my copy of VWMA. Looking forward to it.
Looks like 'Bert' and 'Ernie' are destined to be apart forever.
To all those not knowing..'Bert' is a 15 window Splitty owned by Choppa. He is awesome. Choppa also owned my 15 window lovingly called 'Ernie'. They used to keep each other company until i bought Ernie in my quest for a 23 window. As Simon says..(no pun intended) Ernie is am amazingly rust free Splitty...one of the best I have ever seen.
I would appreciate the formulae for the paint as I will be going down the same track. I don't blame people switching to 2 pak. All that poloshing and you had to have a perfect finish. As far as I know with 2 pak you ahve a herder finish and you are actually polishing the clear...am I right??
Great avitar Simon..long live your beetle. I have yet to obtain my copy of VWMA. Looking forward to it.
Looks like 'Bert' and 'Ernie' are destined to be apart forever.
To all those not knowing..'Bert' is a 15 window Splitty owned by Choppa. He is awesome. Choppa also owned my 15 window lovingly called 'Ernie'. They used to keep each other company until i bought Ernie in my quest for a 23 window. As Simon says..(no pun intended) Ernie is am amazingly rust free Splitty...one of the best I have ever seen.
humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism
3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
No problem Lindon....Be my pleasure.....Just a note....I sold the bug today!!! A gentleman who has just immigrated to WA has bought it...He has a HiPo 2.7 TIV engine to stick in it! I have another project now....A 1960 Golde Ragtop bug! Keeping my driveline, shifter and pop-outs....He gets the rest!
preacherman Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·
Dave I bet you get email as to what tip you took the 23 to from someone with a front end loader on the forum.
Get your shovels ready....
Get your shovels ready....
preacherman Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·
I guess we move on eh Simon. You must have had that bug for a few years eh? How about pics of your 60's Golde Ragtop...sounds great. Loved the sound of your old bug tho!!
humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism
3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Just posted some pics in the members section.... And yeah, I have owned that bug since '91. Sad to see it go, but we have to move on...Dunno when I will find the time to do the bug up, but I will.....Longterm, thats how it goes.
It does sound sweet doesn't it....Something about twin Dellortos and a healthy set of heads. Not to mention a phat exhaust!!!
Hows Ernie looking these days....You ever finish it? Mark has sorted that partition plate for you I noticed!
It does sound sweet doesn't it....Something about twin Dellortos and a healthy set of heads. Not to mention a phat exhaust!!!
Hows Ernie looking these days....You ever finish it? Mark has sorted that partition plate for you I noticed!
Menangler Custom Title Time!
1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
it will be nice to see one more restored 23 window bus on the road Lindon, well done.
Dave,
here is a pic of the '59 23 window I took to the tip 8 years ago.
and the top bit.
This thing was so rusty the top just lifted off, it now lives at the tip at Cowra NSW.
Dave,
here is a pic of the '59 23 window I took to the tip 8 years ago.
and the top bit.
This thing was so rusty the top just lifted off, it now lives at the tip at Cowra NSW.
FAHRVERGNUGEN;
Description of a pleasurable sensation,
Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.
Description of a pleasurable sensation,
Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.
vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday
16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
That would be a GREAT start and LIVE time project
You would have to get a D9 bulldozer to find the one i took to the tip,,,, FARK nearly 30 years ago,,,
You would have to get a D9 bulldozer to find the one i took to the tip,,,, FARK nearly 30 years ago,,,
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409
preacherman Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·
No more pics yet. However I have decided that I am going to do a change to straight thru rear axle and lowered or possible disc front end. This is because one of the previous owner that used it as a tow camper smashed the bell Housing in order to fit a steel plate and make a storage area where once the engine/ gearbox was. Philistine!!
I need to know:
1. What year beetle/van or type 3 I need the rear end from. Is it a bolt off bolt on job or are there amendments needed? What are these please.
2. For the front end the same . What year beetle or bus do I need. Is it bolt on or what amendments etc.
Thanks for the help
Lindon
I need to know:
1. What year beetle/van or type 3 I need the rear end from. Is it a bolt off bolt on job or are there amendments needed? What are these please.
2. For the front end the same . What year beetle or bus do I need. Is it bolt on or what amendments etc.
Thanks for the help
Lindon
humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism
3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Here ya go Lindon...
1. What year beetle/van or type 3 I need the rear end from. Is it a bolt off bolt on job or are there amendments needed? What are these please.
Any TIII Swinger tranaxle (63-68 I think..Good luck!) is the go for a straight axle conversion and you need and adapter kit to make it work or you do as Antony did with his Matt Black splitty here in Perth (remember that place?)...Make your own spacers and mod the spring plates. If you can find all the TIII brake bits, axles and tubes then you can fit them to any 60's or later swingaxle transaxle.
2. For the front end the same . What year beetle or bus do I need. Is it bolt on or what amendments etc.
Disc brake/Balljoint beam - 68-70 bus.
Or drop spindles (better with a straight axle rearend, IMHO) on your LP front end will get you lower and ride better when it is there, but you don't get disc brakes....But you can make some fit. I haven't checked yet, but I think early bus disc's fit onto late LP stubaxles (67?), with minor inner disc clearancing. Then all you have to do is fab some brackets to fit the calipers...Same as I did on my Bug (but with bug parts obviously!).
Anything else I can help you with?
1. What year beetle/van or type 3 I need the rear end from. Is it a bolt off bolt on job or are there amendments needed? What are these please.
Any TIII Swinger tranaxle (63-68 I think..Good luck!) is the go for a straight axle conversion and you need and adapter kit to make it work or you do as Antony did with his Matt Black splitty here in Perth (remember that place?)...Make your own spacers and mod the spring plates. If you can find all the TIII brake bits, axles and tubes then you can fit them to any 60's or later swingaxle transaxle.
2. For the front end the same . What year beetle or bus do I need. Is it bolt on or what amendments etc.
Disc brake/Balljoint beam - 68-70 bus.
Or drop spindles (better with a straight axle rearend, IMHO) on your LP front end will get you lower and ride better when it is there, but you don't get disc brakes....But you can make some fit. I haven't checked yet, but I think early bus disc's fit onto late LP stubaxles (67?), with minor inner disc clearancing. Then all you have to do is fab some brackets to fit the calipers...Same as I did on my Bug (but with bug parts obviously!).
Anything else I can help you with?
veedubjimmy Casual Dubber
39 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·
23 looks great preacher man hurry up and start doing it up.