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debiasi4 Officially Full-On Dubber

283 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#367662
after a little tuning on th dyno i took my brown '57 out to the street meet this weekend and ran a 12.15@ 108 down from a 12.7 all i did was go to a 4.125 crown / pinion from a 4.375
and a electronic ignition from points- still a full weight car with fan belt and muffler
my sister michaela in her buggy ran a 14.3@90 still with a low compression 1916
adam

Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#367688
Nice one Adam,
Sounds like you have that thing sorted, does it pop wheelies like the green one?!!
FAHRVERGNUGEN;
Description of a pleasurable sensation,
Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.

vwfastback Seriously Crusin Dubber

187 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#367881
Congratulations Adam.

That is really well done.

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#368073
Adam

Keep up the good work mate so how much weight can you take out of the car....
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603


http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#368076
well done Adam , that is a great time !! disappointed that we didn't catch up at the VW nationals drags . I too run a full weight car with all interior , glass , pump unleaded fuel and even a spare tyre , so I know what a great time that you have achieved . WELL DONE !!
Team

FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

vwtyp2 Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,504 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#368105
Sounds like you have that thing sorted, does it pop wheelies like the green one?!!
you betcha!

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dragbug Wolfsburg Wizard

609 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#368124
See...no subaru shit needed!!!!!!!!!!!

Need i say more.................

[Edited on 6-6-2005 by dragbug]
"O.S.K"
We make it happen!

Craig Paton Wolfsburg Wizard

620 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#368139
Congrats!

That's quicker than Pagey in Rod's '61 going by the all motor rules weight restriction of 1750lbs!
And that's with pump fuel,muffler and belt!
Pretty impressive!

Are the 57's lighter than the 61's?

[Edited on 6/6/2005 by Craig Paton]

dragbug Wolfsburg Wizard

609 posts · joined Sep 2004 ·

#368144
"Slightly "
This car is street driven aswell!
"O.S.K"
We make it happen!

Dak-A-Tak Volksie Pete

1,381 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#368269
Good oneAdam !!!!! thumbs up!!! Great to see more tuff-steeters at the track and times coming down.What motor combo and rev's ( gear change , finish line rpm). Craig ,Rod's car is a 61model and has run 11.92 at 109mph (2276cc). We are putting the engine together with a new CB super case,old case was very tide and had cancer on the sump bottom ( leaks). LOOK ON CAL-LOOK top 20 craig !Any way ADAM tops mate.

speedster356 Plastic not Classic Racing

1,624 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#368281
Adam, got a slip to post? And don't forget Michaela's as well. :thumb


[Edited on 6-6-2005 by speedster356]
Spyder-WISD 07-09-05 11.6s @ 125 MPH

Speedster-WISD Nats 05 14.4s @ 89 MPH

Jet cruiser-Coogee 22-09-05 900 deg C @ 110,000 rpm

Weaseling out of things is what separates us from the animals....................Except the Weasel.

reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#368285
dragbug wrote:See...no subaru shit needed!!!!!!!!!!!

Need i say more.................

[Edited on 6-6-2005 by dragbug]
:thumb hail the purists.....mind you, you can't beat the sound of a hypo aircooled, it's just wicked

Congrats man...great to hear the times...

[Edited on 6-6-2005 by reub-revhead]
Reub

glita1 Learner Dubber

3 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#368320
speedster356 wrote:Adam, got a slip to post? And don't forget Michaela's as well. :thumb


[Edited on 6-6-2005 by speedster356]
email time slips to you today, hope to see times drop again!

Boostn Wolfsburg Wizard

657 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#368365
Good stuff Dude!

Craig Paton Wolfsburg Wizard

620 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#368395
My apologies Pete! I should have elaborated by saying that's quicker than Rod's time in the all -motor class, assuming that Adam's car meets the all-motor weight restricions of 1750lbs!

:thumb

Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#368585
Well done Adam and Michaela!!!
11's dont seem too far away now. Must of been cold Saturday night!
Here are some pics

[Edited on 7/6/2005 by Turbo54]

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C'mon kids gather round,
there's a new sensation hitting town,
It's moving straight, low to the ground,
it'll pick you up when your feeling down.

Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#368586
And another

[Edited on 7/6/2005 by Turbo54]

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C'mon kids gather round,
there's a new sensation hitting town,
It's moving straight, low to the ground,
it'll pick you up when your feeling down.

Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#368587
three more

[Edited on 7/6/2005 by Turbo54]

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C'mon kids gather round,
there's a new sensation hitting town,
It's moving straight, low to the ground,
it'll pick you up when your feeling down.

Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#368589
another

[Edited on 7/6/2005 by Turbo54]

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C'mon kids gather round,
there's a new sensation hitting town,
It's moving straight, low to the ground,
it'll pick you up when your feeling down.

Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#368590
last one!

[Edited on 7/6/2005 by Turbo54]

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C'mon kids gather round,
there's a new sensation hitting town,
It's moving straight, low to the ground,
it'll pick you up when your feeling down.

debiasi4 Officially Full-On Dubber

283 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#368738
thanks for the pics heath
i'm going to try and ditch some weight from the car, not sure were from yet
maybe if i stopped eating family size pizzas for morning tea it would help
would love to see a 11s run
not sure if the car is legal for allmotor class, adelaide is not a ANDRA track anyway- but you can get away with anything here, amate runs a rotor powered corrola which pulls 9.8s at over 140mph with no cage and the officials don't care! yes he must be crazy
adam

speedster356 Plastic not Classic Racing

1,624 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#368746
Great times guys, looks like I'm going to have to get the lead out of the speedster and have a crack at Michaela's time:thumb
It did a 14.48 but with someone else driving....that says a lot for my efforts:duh
What's the buggies weight?
Spyder-WISD 07-09-05 11.6s @ 125 MPH

Speedster-WISD Nats 05 14.4s @ 89 MPH

Jet cruiser-Coogee 22-09-05 900 deg C @ 110,000 rpm

Weaseling out of things is what separates us from the animals....................Except the Weasel.

Graeme Casual Dubber

35 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#368783
Great work Adam. With times like that, i think we'll just leave the Datsun in the shed......
:vader

davidoconnor Commited Dubber

71 posts · joined May 2005 ·

#368785
Top effort Adam, thats got to be pretty close to the all motor record for ET and MPH. Last I heard it was 12.1 and 109 MPH, don't quote me on that though. Pity our track isn't ANDRA affiliated if it was we could have a real go at it!!!


Have you had a chance to weigh the car yet, is it under the 1750Lb??

Congratulations!!!

davidoconnor Commited Dubber

71 posts · joined May 2005 ·

#368817
All motor record is currently 12.19seconds held by Michael Baghdadi in a Gemini!! This was run at the recent Drag Combat in Sydney.

Better check that weight Adam you might be set for another record!

speedster356 Plastic not Classic Racing

1,624 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#368837
What are the all motor rules? :duh
Spyder-WISD 07-09-05 11.6s @ 125 MPH

Speedster-WISD Nats 05 14.4s @ 89 MPH

Jet cruiser-Coogee 22-09-05 900 deg C @ 110,000 rpm

Weaseling out of things is what separates us from the animals....................Except the Weasel.

Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#369144
Adam, what about a lightweight W'Decklid. I know where there is one. Also lose the bumpers and only run 1/4 talk of fuel! 11's... here you come!
T54
C'mon kids gather round,
there's a new sensation hitting town,
It's moving straight, low to the ground,
it'll pick you up when your feeling down.

Graeme Casual Dubber

35 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#369263
Turbo54 wrote:Adam, what about a lightweight W'Decklid. I know where there is one. Also lose the bumpers and only run 1/4 talk of fuel! 11's... here you come!
T54
OR.....you could just get Michaela to drive the car for you... She would knock a few Kg's off....and she's a better driver isn't she?😉

HGFS Wolfsburg Wizard

531 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#369434
debiasi4 wrote:maybe if i stopped eating family size pizzas for morning tea it would help
Nah it wouldnt help, you need to have more of those if you want to lose weight, haven't you heard of the new weight loss phenomenon sweeping the US???:thumb

Nice times by the way, gotta get out & see a run one of these days
Greg
1954 Oval long term project going nowhere
1958 Beetle drag car project
1959 Beetle project I need to sell one day
1969 Squareback

wacked1 Custom Title Time!

1,508 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#369480
speedster356 wrote:What are the all motor rules? :duh
here you go lifted off the ANDRA website

http://www.andra.com.au/

ALL MOTOR – DYO - CLASS REGULATIONS

Class Designations: AM preceded by car number.



The All Motor category is designed for full-bodied cars using original floor-pan and no power adders.



Minimum Weights:



FWD 4-cylinder: 1,650 pounds; RWD, VW air-cooled, stock “Type I” case only: 1,750 pounds; RWD or 4WD 4-cylinder/2-rotor: 1,950 pounds. Full tube chassis or back half with non-OEM strut mounts/strut tower permitted in FWD only - add 75 pounds; sequential, clutch-less, V-gate or non-OEM aftermarket transmissions, add 200 pounds. All weights include driver, verified after the run.



CLASS REQUIREMENTS



1. Engine



1.1 Engine: 4 cylinder or 2 rotor engine only; all others prohibited. Power adders prohibited. Stepped-deck block maximum 3/4-inch (19mm) permitted. Billet blocks prohibited. Use of vacuum pump for evacuation of crankcase pressure permitted. Dry-sump permitted. All engine block and cylinder head castings must be, or have been, available in a production car or truck from a recognised OEM assembly line with a minimum production run of 5000 units, unless otherwise approved by ANDRA.

1.2 Exhaust: Open exhaust permitted, except where prohibited by track rules.

1.3 Fuel: Restricted to alcohol or petrol only. Refer ANDRA General Regulations 1.6 and 1.7.

1.4 Fuel System: See General Regulations 1.8.

1.5 Liquid Overflow: See General Regulations 1.9.

1.6 Nitrous Oxide: Prohibited.

1.7 Supercharger, Turbocharger: Prohibited.



2. Driveline



2.1 Driveline: Aftermarket or non-OEM transmissions permitted; see weight breaks. Automated, timer-type, pneumatic, electric, electronic, hydraulic, etc. shifting mechanism prohibited; each individual shift must be a function of the driver and controlled manually. (Driver must pull the lever.) Rear-end swap permitted, but must use original mounting points and suspension. Vehicles running 10.99 or quicker with independent rear suspension using upper and lower (both) control arms may retain swing-axle assembly regardless of weight or ET. Must have 360-degree, minimum 1-inch (25mm) wide by 1/4 inch (6mm) thick axle-retention loop on each axle.

2.2.1 Flywheel Shield: All manual-transmission-equipped RWD cars running 10.99 or quicker must have a flywheel shield labeled as meeting minimum SFI Spec 6.1 or 9.1 or a fabricated shield made of 1/4-inch (6mm) thick steel, surrounding the bell housing 360 degrees, extending 1 inch (25mm) forward and 1 inch (25mm) rearward of the rotating clutch assembly. Shield must be securely attached to frame or frame structure, may be multi-piece. All FWD or transverse-mounted applications using a clutch and running quicker than 10.99 must be equipped with a flywheel shield made of 1/4-inch (6mm) minimum-thickness steel plate. In lieu of steel plate, an SFI Spec 4.1 will be accepted if blanket adequately covers bell housing. Shield must surround the bell housing completely except for area of flywheel shield adjacent to differential and axle shaft. Shield may be multi-piece, with pieces bolted together using minimum 3/8-inch (10mm)-diameter Grade 5 or M10 class 8.8 bolts; may be attached to engine and/or bell housing. See General Regulations 2.6.

2.2.2 Automatic Transmission: See General Regulations 2.2.

2.3 Rear End: Rear-end swap permitted, but must use original mounting points and suspension. See General Regulations 2.7.



3. Brakes & Suspension



3.1 Brakes: Four-wheel hydraulic brakes mandatory. See General Regulations 3.1.

3.2 Steering: See General Regulations 3.3.

3.3 Suspension: OEM suspension mounting points mandatory. Traction devices permitted provided stock mounting points are retained. One working shock absorber per wheel mandatory. See General Regulations 3.4.

3.4 Suspension, Front: Aftermarket or fabricated lower control arms permitted, but must use original mounting points.

3.5 Suspension, Rear: FWD with factory independent rear suspension may replace with straight axle suspension, but must retain original mounting points. Strut must mount to original upper mounting point. RWD vehicles must use original mounting points and suspension. Rear-end swaps permitted, but must use OEM mounting points.

3.6 Wheelie Bars: Permitted. Maximum length 65 inches (1650mm) from rear bumper. May be adjustable, but must be fixed during run. Any movement or adjustment during run prohibited. Pneumatics, hydraulics, electronics, etc. prohibited. Wheelie-bar wheels must spin free at the starting line. Any preload prohibited.



4. Frame



4.1 Ballast: Permitted. See General Regulations 4.2.

4.2 Chassis, All cars: FWD must retain FWD configuration; rear-drive conversions prohibited. Bracing of front suspension towers to roll cage permitted. Otherwise no bracing may be added forward of firewall. Excessive lightening of uni-body structure (i.e., drilling of holes, etc.) prohibited. See General Regulations 4.3, 4.7.

4.2.1 Chassis, FWD: Engine must be located in original location and configuration for body used. Conversion from transverse to longitudinal engine orientation prohibited. If engine is relocated weight penalty for full tube chassis is assigned. Wheel tubs, back halfs, tube chassis etc. permitted; however, full-tube chassis or back half with non-OEM strut mounts/strut tower assemblies incurs weight penalty. (See minimum weights at beginning of section, and also Floor, FWD under Body). Back half is considered from B-pillar or main roll-cage hoop, whichever is further rearward. Refer Section 7.3.1.

4.2.2 Chassis, RWD or 4WD: Engine relocation prohibited. OEM chassis, with complete OEM floor-pan and firewall minus 6 square feet for transmission removal, mandatory. Back half is considered from B-pillar or main roll cage hoop, whichever is further rearward. Back half and/ or non-OEM suspension mounting points prohibited.

4.3 Ground Clearance: Minimum 3 inches (75mm) from front of car to 12 inches (305mm) behind centerline of front axle, 2 inches (50mm) for remainder of car (except for exhaust more than 12 inches (305mm) behind centerline of front axle).

4.4 Parachute: See General Regulations 4.6.

4.5 Roll Cage: Permitted. See General Regulations 4.7.

4.6 Wheelbase: Must retain original wheelbase for body used, plus or minus 1 inch (25mm). Maximum wheelbase variation from left to right is 1 inch (25mm).



5. Tyres & Wheels



5.1 Tyres: Must be DOT or racing slicks with a maximum width of 10.5 inches (268mm) and maximum height of 28 inches (710mm). Cars quicker than 12.50 (1/4 mile) using independent front suspension and cross ply rear tyres are not permitted to use radial from tyres.

5.2 Wheels: Must be automotive-type wheels suitable for street or racing use. Minimum wheel size 13 inches (330mm) unless originally equipped with smaller wheels and vehicle is equipped with original engine. Wheel studs must be threaded into hex portion of lug nut a distance at least equal to the diameter of the stud. See General Regulations 5.3.



6. Interior



6.1 Interior: Upholstery, headliners, carpets, dashboard, etc. optional. Must be equipped with one seat minimum for driver, properly installed. Holes, slots, or other openings in floor and/or firewall prohibited. See General Regulations 6.1.



7. Body



7.1 Body: Any 4 cylinder or rotary automobile, light truck or 4WD permitted. Mild Customizing permitted, but must retain full-bodied appearance and silhouette, with minimum 2 functional doors. Convertible permitted, but must run with top up. Doors must open and close from inside and outside. Glass may be replaced with Lexan or other shatterproof material, minimum thickness 1/8-inch (3mm). Side windows need not be operative, but must be in fully closed position for run. Lightweight body panels permitted. Body must retain a finished appearance, with full bonnet, guards and boot (or fascia kits), and paint. Air intake tube may not be routed outside of body, hood scoop permitted. Otherwise, only factory air-inlet openings permitted.

7.2 Firewall: OEM firewall mandatory on RWD and 4WD. Replacement steel firewall permitted on FWD, but incurs full tube chassis weight penalty. See General Regulations 7.4.

7.3.1 Floor, FWD: Horizontal portion(s) of floor-pan may be removed from behind B-pillar or roll-cage main hoop attachment points (whichever is farther rearward) to rear of car. Entire shock/strut tower structure must be retained. Portion of floor removed must be replaced with aluminum or steel, completely sealed. Complete, unaltered, OEM floor-pan from B-pillar or roll-cage main hoop attachment points (whichever is farther rearward) to front of car mandatory. Excessive lightening of uni-body structure, i.e. drilling of holes, etc., prohibited.

7.3.2 Floor, RWD: OEM floor-pan, front to rear, minus 6 square feet for transmission removal, mandatory.

7.4 Street Equipment: Two headlights and taillights must be present or painted on; need not be operational except for one working taillight.



8. Electrical



8.1 Batteries: Batteries must be securely mounted; may not be located in driver compartment unless sealed off per General Regulations. See General Regulations 8.1.

8.2 Ignition: Two steps, rev limiters, etc. permitted. See General Regulations 8.2, 8.3.



9. Support Group



9.1 Computer: Vehicle Management System’s prohibited. Electronic fuel Injection permitted. Refer General Regulations9.2.

9.2 Data Recorder: Permitted. Wheel-speed sensors of any type on any wheel, including wheelie-bar wheel(s), prohibited. See General Regulations 9.3.

9.3 Fire Extinguisher System: Permitted; must be securely mounted. See General Regulations 9.4.

9.4 Tow Vehicles: Only permitted where use of a parachute is required, however, ANDRA may, at random intervals, require race vehicle to return to scales under its own power. See General Regulations 9.9.

9.5 Warm-Ups: See General Regulations 9.10.



10. Driver



10.1 Credentials: All drivers must have an ANDRA competition Licence. ANDRA Unlimited Licence mandatory for driver of any car running 10.99 or quicker. See Section 1 - Credentials.

10.2 Driver Restraint System: See General Regulations 10.11.

10.3 Helmet: See General Regulations 10.8.

10.4 Neck Collar: See General Regulations 10.10.

10.5 Protective Clothing: See General Regulations 10.10.
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