good deal or not?

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 · 14 Jun 2005, 7:55 am

#371651

hey guys. after toying with the idea of a 1915cc turbo vw motor i emailed an engine builder from thesamba called "perf lab". im sure some of you guys have seen their ads.

well i asked them the price for a 1915cc longblock with sufficient mods to handle a injected turbo system.

this is the reply i got via email.

"hi anthony this is vic from perf lab the builder.
for a new 1915 turbo long block with all new internals counterweighted balanced,
with chromoly flywheel, straight cut gears bug pack, scat H beams, sand sealed,
fk 8 cam with scat 1.4 ratio rockers, welded #3,with new heads turbo heads 42X40
mm valves dual springs, titanium retainers, med d port heads your, stainless
steel scat valve covers, and push rod tubes, with 3/8 manton chromoly push rods.
your looking at 3000 for the complete long block, with all brand new internals
specifically built for a turbo set up. with warranty. for the shipping im am
not sure at the moment but I can research for you. what make this application
expensive is the design for the turbo. its some of the components such as 1.4
rockers that must be used with fk8 cam, chromoly hardware, case with welded #3
for reinforcement ect. what you will get is a bullit proof motor.
let me know there is room for negotiation on parts.
thanks
vic "

now my question is. is this $3000US a good price for what is stated?

any help appreciated.

Anthony

Che Castro ankle straps

1,945 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 14 Jun 2005, 8:59 am

#371662

The builder is overseas, firstly you will obviously have to get the engine over here which will not be cheap. Secondly if you have any issues or have to contact him it iwill be difficult.

Plus you have to provide the induction system, exhaust and turbo which you will have to fabricate or get someone to fabricate for you. Plus other ancillaries like oil cooler, filter, tinware etc. Not worth it. Unless you enjoy spending lots of time and money organising things overseas. Honestly, just stick with one thing and go with it instead of changing your mind all the time.

[Edited on 13-6-2005 by Che Castro]

Jon

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 · 14 Jun 2005, 9:34 am

#371671

it equated to about $5300 landed here in australi (including customs dutys and GST).

i was just wondering if this is a good price as copared to what you can get built over here for the price.

Anthony

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 14 Jun 2005, 12:29 pm

#371736

good price yes

Good value - i doubt it.

On the Samba you see a lot of these adds. Ask on places like Shoptalk and see what sort of response you get.

Aircooled.net sells a 1916 long block for $3600

http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=ESE0002&cartid=

AC.net sells a LOT of parts so would have volume on his side. How come this other bloke can add a turbo and sell for $600US less.

Add up the parts your self and see what it comes too.

Companies like GEX and others sell these with SEVERLEY cut cases, mis matched P&C's and badly fitting tin etc.

Just remember you get NO warranty on this (like you are going to pack it up and send it back???)

Save your money and spend it here

Futue te ipsum!!!

Quoll Officially Full-On Dubber

232 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 14 Jun 2005, 7:45 pm

#371944

I don't think hes adding a turbo bizzare its just setup for one

Haveing said that bizzare is right, best to ask around see if his longblocks are good and what problems people have had

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 14 Jun 2005, 9:20 pm

#372007

ooops :duh

Futue te ipsum!!!

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 · 15 Jun 2005, 10:36 am

#372153

yeah it is just a plain longblock. comes with a signed warranty by the guy that builds them himself.

Anthony

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 15 Jun 2005, 10:40 am

#372154

Hi

That makes a Subi conversion sound cheap, what did it cost Jak? Just under $4000 I think.

Steve

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 15 Jun 2005, 11:11 am

#372160

good God man!

dont start this up again!

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71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 · 16 Jun 2005, 5:06 am

#372493

it does make a subie conversion cheap. but end of the day i have always wanted to build a hypo vw motor. and if i was going to go conversion im more of a rota kind-a guy anyway 🙂

Anthony

waltermitty Legend when my beer goggles are on

1,993 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 17 Jun 2005, 6:59 pm

#373288

The Subies have no torque

23 windows ...8 too many!