Radiator data

Jenny Officially Full-On Dubber

352 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 25 Jul 2005, 8:37 am

#389554

Anyone doing a conversion will tell you how frustrating it can be trying to find the right size radiator to fit the space available with the in/out lets in the correct positions (without getting one custom made).

I have found a website that gives dimensions for the radiator core (does NOT include the inlet/outlet tanks) and inlet/outlet tube sizes, which is a start.
http://www.radiators-brisbane.com.au/commerce/search/search_options.php3?merchant_id=2081
For example:
Holden Barina '95 manual has a core size of 678 x 271 x 29, 2 row with in/out of 35mm diameter

For info on measurung the core go here http://www.hitechrad.com.au/ and click

If anyone has any info on radiators then please post it here so we can get a data bank going. thanksnn[ Edited on 24-7-2005 by Jenny ]

fozee Seriously Crusin Dubber

146 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 25 Jul 2005, 5:13 pm

#389711

Great Idea!!

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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 25 Jul 2005, 9:27 pm

#389834

& how about the part number of the water ( inlet ) of the subaru to make it face the front of the car it was from a ford ?

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Jenny Officially Full-On Dubber

352 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 26 Jul 2005, 9:04 am

#389955

I have found that the thermostat housing from a Ford Falcon 6cyl XY-XB will fit the Subaru non-turbo EJ motors and moves the inlet from the RHS to the front. The bolt holes on the Ford item are slightly larger so you may need to fit a bush over your Subaru bolts. The Ford item also has a threaded hole so you can fit a hose tail to connect the bottom of your expansion bottle.
The part I have is made by Kilkenny Castings, p/n W04 and was $12.99 at Supercheap Auto, shown on the left, complete with gasket. The original Subaru item is on the right.

You can see the two in the 'before' and 'after' shots in this post http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewthread.php?tid=43283

[ Edited on 19-10-2005 by Jenny ]

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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 26 Jul 2005, 9:18 pm

#390235

and to think I was a smart ass making an adapter plate to turn it around > this was about two hours of my time as well .
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Jenny Officially Full-On Dubber

352 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 27 Jul 2005, 8:58 am

#390375

Funny you should say that, I also spent about 2 hours making an adaptor plate only to find it wouldn't seal properly because it was flexing... in my defeat I remembered seeing a range of replacement thermostat housings at the auot shop and thought I'd see what I could find and wala!

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 27 Jul 2005, 9:36 pm

#390649

I still have the unit I made with the screws ect I sell it to you Jenny $12.99 🙂
mine sealed good

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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 27 Jul 2005, 9:40 pm

#390652

my subaru one is plastic , yours looks ally Jenny

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Jenny Officially Full-On Dubber

352 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 29 Jul 2005, 7:12 am

#391190

Holden JB Camira 1.6L radiator is copper and weighs about 6kg including the thermofan. It is a crossflow type and has a seperate expansion tank with pressure cap. It has a 2 row core and the thickness across the tanks is 60mm (didn't measure the thickness of the core itself).
I am running two of these in series in my Eureka. The thermoswitch is removed on this one as it is being controlled by the ECU and temperature sender on the Subaru motor. I left the thermoswitch on the other and will do some experimenting to see if it's better to switch via ECU or thermoswitch.nn[ Edited on 9-8-2005 by Jenny ]

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Jenny Officially Full-On Dubber

352 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 29 Jul 2005, 7:15 am

#391192

BMW 320 from the late '80s is also quite small. It is the downflow type and has the pressure cap fitted to the top tank.

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rubyred Slammed & Awesome Dubber

77 posts · joined Apr 2005 · 9 Aug 2005, 8:09 am

#395307

i used a Griffin racing aluminum radiator. they are a well know brand. you can get universal ones in various sizes at www.summitracing.com for about 180-190 usd, which is a very good price.

here is a pic of the one i got. 27.5in x 15.5in. and about 3 inches wide.

Here is info on wrx stock and aftermarket radiators to use as a base.

stock, dry wt 7.6lbs
22 mm thick, plastic end tank galore, OEM replacement costs $253
Total coolant system is approx 2 gallons
*stock fans mount with non-machined screws. Most aftermarket units will need new bolts to remount the fans.

C&R - custom replacement, US made
50.8 mm thick, 1-row design, comes with new SPAL fans (11" drivers side, 14" passenger's side) and reservoir tank. Dimensions are 27"x14"x2" (50.8mm thick), however Egan stated that the end tanks are 2" but the core is thinner

Fluidyne - Direct replacement, US made
38 mm thick, 1-row design, reuse stock fans
coolant capacity is approx 0.5 gallons more than stock
*required parts, five m6 x 1.0 screws to remount the stock fans. Length anywhere from 12mm to 16mm

MRT - Direct replacement, Aussie made
32 mm thick, unknown # rows, reuse stock fans, strikingly similar to the PWR

PWR - Direct replacement, Aussie made, dry wt 11.4 lbs
37 mm thick, 1-row design, reuse stock fans
coolant capacity is approx 0.5 gallons more than stock
precaution for PWR install regarding mounting bracket rubbing

Speedmonkee - Direct replacement, US made, dry wt 8.9 lbs
38.1 mm thick, 1-row design, reuse stock fans
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho...hlight=radiator
coolant capacity is approx 0.5 gallons more than stock

-Ryan

www.subynotch.com

Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head

837 posts · joined Apr 2004 · 9 Aug 2005, 9:53 am

#395330

Jenny wrote:Holden Camira radiator is copper and weighs about 6kg including the thermofan. It is a crossflow type and has a seperate expansion tank with pressure cap. It has a 2 row core and the thickness across the tanks is 60mm (didn't measure the thickness of the core itself).nn[ Edited on 28-7-2005 by Jenny ]

I used the Holden Camira radiator but mine is bigger than that, I think it's 650mm x 400mm, it fits snugly in my superbig wheel well. It works so well I've had to tape up the air inlet in my spoiler for winter.
regards
Jak

Jenny Officially Full-On Dubber

352 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 9 Aug 2005, 10:11 am

#395333

Jak,
Maybe the size difference could be due to yours being from a later JD 1.8 or JE 2.0 litre model while mine is from a JB 1.6 litre ?
This site indicates the JB radiator is smaller and fatter than that from a JE http://home.pacific.net.au/~camira/Wado.html

nn[ Edited on 9-8-2005 by Jenny ]

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Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head

837 posts · joined Apr 2004 · 9 Aug 2005, 12:47 pm

#395396

Thats my radiator!
Jak

dubbill Officially Full-On Dubber

336 posts · joined Jul 2005 · 9 Aug 2005, 12:55 pm

#395403

an in line thermostat would have been a Less dodgy idea my older brother is a "DUCT TAPE WARRIOR TOO

tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!

1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 9 Aug 2005, 1:52 pm

#395442

I fitted a Nissan FJ20et into a Hi-Lux ute recently and had the same drama with the neck of the thermostat outlet pointing in the wrong direction.
In the end, i cut out a ring of 10mm mild steel which retains the thermostat in the stock position and then drilled and bolted on a neck off a different car to get the angle I wanted. being 10mm thick, it does not leak.

FWIW
I remember seeing various ally thermostat housings that were a 3 peice design and you simply undid the retaining bolts and rotated the neck in any direction and tightened it again. The necks came in some different angles as well as different bolt patterns.

I saw these somewhere in a speedshop for adapting different radiators to different engines/cars blah in the hotrod game!

Might be worth checking out further for that particularly fiddly transplant.

L8tr
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Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....

helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 9 Aug 2005, 2:25 pm

#395471

My one was plastic and I fitted an alloy one, just so the weight of the hose could not have any chance of pulling it down and it leaking. Just a safety precaution.

seagull wrote:my subaru one is plastic , yours looks ally Jenny

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Jenny Officially Full-On Dubber

352 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 5 Oct 2005, 9:11 am

#414464

Some more info & pics of radiators in this post http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewthread.php?tid=35720

'subaruboxer' is using a radiator from a VW Rabbit 1 GTI
'Boof2332' is using a radiator from an Alfa 33

[ Edited on 4-10-2005 by Jenny ]

72RSbug Officially Full-On Dubber

266 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 5 Oct 2005, 4:32 pm

#414564

My scrapyard radiator is from a BMW E36 6 cylinder, could have gone with a little wider one after seeing subaruboxers radiator but mine should be able to handle it also.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/844000-844999/844382_15_full.jpg

subaruboxer Officially Full-On Dubber

292 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 10 Oct 2005, 3:47 am

#415762

Hi Jenny,
nice find the thermostat housing!!

Jörg

didget69 Learner Dubber

1 post · joined Oct 2005 · 19 Oct 2005, 12:03 pm

#419115

Wow, great info guys & gals!

My first post as a Newbie here to the site - working on a Safari Industries fiberglass buggy with Sube EJ-25 DOHC NA motor/Type 2 091 gearbox install currently - just got a new chassis & working slowly at pulling all the needed bits together!

I've been looking at the radiator question as well & have been in discussion with my local radiator shop buddy - he is recommending that I look at using heat exchangers as radiators; kind of like large heater cores. Will post a couple pics... also looking into using pair of motorcycle radiators as an option. I'm trying to avoid putting the rad in front on the buggy if possible! Considering using pods in front of rear wheels with a radiator in each one...

Also here are some options for radiators from the Subaru-powered airplane crowd -

http://groups.msn.com/1971Datsun510pics/shoebox.msnw?Page=1

regards,

Bryan in Raleigh, North Carolina/USA/Planet Earth

Jenny Officially Full-On Dubber

352 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 12 Jan 2006, 10:50 am

#446530

Another option:
"...jeep cherokee radiator in the front of my super below/behind the bumper with twin 10" cooling fans..."
see this site
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=93888

and this snippet "...I just measured the jeep cherokee radiator, It is 35.5X11.5in. total width. It would fit perfeclty in the package shelf area..."
from here http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=93888&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

[ Edited on 12-1-2006 by Jenny ]

Jenny Officially Full-On Dubber

352 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 2 Mar 2006, 12:45 pm

#460347

from Boof2332 on another thread...

"A couple more radiator options (type)

Found a couple of good radiators..

3.0 Mitsubishi Triton...about 600x450

Volvo 240 (?) really small sealed unit, mate owns overkill engineering and they do crazy 4x4 cucton conversions. They used this radiator in a rear engined v6 holden powered rock hopper and it never overheated..aprox 450x450.

Matt "