Beetle Brakes

electricmonk Officially Full-On Dubber

287 posts · joined Aug 2005 · 11 Aug 2005, 5:32 pm

#396463

Hi all. While I have owned a 76 Golf before I am totally new to the air cooled variety. I started looking for a nice car to drive to work that would not cost the earth. I looked at quite a few and then became infatuated with Bugs. Perhaps I wanted something I could actually work on without having a computer degree. I finally settled on a 73 "L" over a 65, mainly because of the creature comforts allthough I now plan on getting something older to work on next year. The question I have is: Whats up with VW brakes? I test drove five or six and all had what I would term "hoary" brakes. Foot nearly to the floor and quite spongy. I would have expected a difference between the disk and drums but all were equally bad. Is this because they are not power assisted? Oh and I noticed that all the shifters had broken boots and three miles between gears. Is there any way to fix this? I want something a little tighter. The car I chose is not in the best condition but for the price it was a steal. Besides I know I should be able to do most if not all the work myself and learn for my next project car. The wife does not like my choice as she wanted me to get a trytop ute but I think I became infected with Wolfsburg disease. For the fist time in many years I am excited to be driving a car I can work on.:bounce

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 11 Aug 2005, 5:42 pm

#396469

welcome to the fold
the brakes can be quite good if they are spongy bleed them, as for the shift distance fit a quick shift which will reduce it to about 2 inches between gears not 4-6 inches

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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 11 Aug 2005, 5:52 pm

#396473

For the fist time in many years I am excited to be driving a car I can work on.:bounce

Ahhh, yes, grasshopper, but are you excited by working on a car you need to drive...?

Brakes; If all is in good condition, the brakes on your Beetle should have a firm pedal and not too much travel - 3 or so inches, which is similar to anything else. And they should be able to pull the car up quite abruptly. Some of us have raced on std brakes...! Start by checking (pads, shoes, leaks from wheel cylinder etc) and bleeding everything to ensure there are no air pockets etc

Gears: There is a circular plastic bush just below and behind the gear lever, within the pan's central tube, that holds the gearshift rod (remove gear lever). Sloppy gear lever usually means this bush is shot.. a new one is about $12 and is a 20-minute... but fiddly... fix. Extra, extra slop means your gearbox's shift input shaft (under the rear seat) is also worn... but they were never too tight anyway!

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electricmonk Officially Full-On Dubber

287 posts · joined Aug 2005 · 11 Aug 2005, 6:11 pm

#396480

Thanks. I had allready purchased three magazines before I settled on a bug. I think they made up my mind. The smell of grease, petrol and oil came back to me and I felt sad that I had been away from doing things myself for so long.
I was wondering just how strong the brake hoses were. Should it be something to replace sooner rather than later even if they look good?
Do you know an approximate guess on how much that sort of shifter will cost? I was just going to replace the bushes in the old unit but if there is something better for a good price I will probably go that way first.
God this car better be OK for the fist few weeks at least lol. I am going to get a VW mechanic to give it a major service then start doing things myself. This is mainly so they can tell me the things I need to do before I HAVE to do them
Edit: just saw the other post while writing this. I haven't actually picked the car up yet so not had a decent drive. I have had quite a bit of experience rebuilding Old Holden's and spending WAY too much on engines so I am not shy about doing the work once I get my hands on a factory manual. LOL I am like a kid with a new toy and the wait till I pick the car up tommorow is killing me

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 11 Aug 2005, 6:45 pm

#396491

under $20 for the quick shift and it works well

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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 11 Aug 2005, 6:52 pm

#396494

lol... let's get the basics right, okay?

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electricmonk Officially Full-On Dubber

287 posts · joined Aug 2005 · 14 Aug 2005, 11:13 pm

#397591

Well I finally have the car now. I must have looked at too many as this one does not seem to be as bad with the brakes and loose shifter. However the electrics are wierd. Fuel gage refuses to work and wow that I took out the old stereo wiring the flasher unit buzzes constantly till I start the car and the gen light flashes with the indicator. 🤪 I am realy looking forward to working on this problem as I love nutting out wiring problems. The car actually handles real nice as well.

And they shall beat their swords into plowshares, for if you hit a man with a ploughshare, he'll know he's been hit

electricmonk Officially Full-On Dubber

287 posts · joined Aug 2005 · 24 Aug 2005, 12:53 am

#400640

:cry I just took her in for a major service and inspection today. My motor is apparently shot. Compressions between 90 and 105. leaking seals and one of the spark plugs had been cross threaded. So thay say I have to do the rings and the job will cost over 1200 dollars. Plus all the other thinks like sized LH rear brake adjuster, faulty fuel gage, shocks and struts a few bushes and I still have to find a good RH front and LH rear guard and running boards. THEN the micowave packed up, the frige went on the fritz, heater broke, washing machine died, kids are sick, 1500 to 1800 to spend fixing the wifes cars trans and all this in just over a week. Hmm anyone know of parts available in Adelaide that are cheap? lol time to start crying methinks

And they shall beat their swords into plowshares, for if you hit a man with a ploughshare, he'll know he's been hit

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 24 Aug 2005, 8:52 am

#400685

Compression.. who cares? As long is it is not blowing smoke... If it runs, it runs... that's one of the beauties of a Beetle! The rest you can proabably tackle yourself

The last car I bought, the owner said he'd had a quote for a new engine becuase it was 'stuffed'. It was very hard to start, had a leaky exhaust, was blowing a little blue smoke and there was a red light in the dash that flickered...

I crossed my fingers, put in fresh oil (that was the red light on the dash) puttied the exhaust leak, changed the plugs, adjusted the points and carby and can now sit on the freeway at 120km/h when the cops aren't looking

And the old owner was told he needed a new engine...nn[ Edited on 23-8-2005 by VWCOOL ]

Pay your debts, CxxT

tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!

1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 24 Aug 2005, 2:30 pm

#400760

VWCOOL wrote:For the fist time in many years I am excited to be driving a car I can work on.
Ahhh, yes, grasshopper, but are you excited by working on a car you need to drive...?

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumb:thumb:thumb:thumb:P:P
nn[ Edited on 24/8/05 by tassupervee ]

Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....

tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!

1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 24 Aug 2005, 2:43 pm

#400764

VWCOOL wrote:Compression.. who cares? As long is it is not blowing smoke... If it runs, it runs... that's one of the beauties of a Beetle! The rest you can proabably tackle yourself

Precisely. never better said!
When you tested it, it drove alright yer? Thats why you bought it.
What, so now it rooted coz a garage said so? Crap!
When the plug fires out of the cros-threaded hole (and god help the garage if THEY did it and are covering up),, then its time to fix it with a heli-coil. When the guards drop onto the road, gaffer tape them back on. The rings are shot when the engine refuses to ever go again or lays enough smoke to conceal the enemy and the oil drains out overnight is the time for "new seals"!
Drive your toy M8,
The brake adjuster is a 15 minute job and some CRC.
L8tr
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Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....