haha.. one page full of parts posts... crazy,
thats one sweet puzzle..
warb gimme some butter im on a roll.....
1,983 posts · joined May 2003 ·
HYPO-VW turbo manx project
Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum
2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
That is some serious hardcore internals there...... those rods look indestructible !
This will be scary fast !
HAve you worked out what injectors you will need for it yet ?
Are you using a deep sump / extension ?
What / who's crank are you using ?
Look forward to further updates....... Hope the oval is still going strong.
This will be scary fast !
HAve you worked out what injectors you will need for it yet ?
Are you using a deep sump / extension ?
What / who's crank are you using ?
Look forward to further updates....... Hope the oval is still going strong.
Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk
2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·
Did someone say $$$$$!!
Thats some hardware, how much are the pauter rods, I looked at them but thought they were mega bucks as well as the injection perfection TB's. Can't wait to see it come together. Do you think a little overkill for 1915? With the heads, case rods and transmission etc, why not stick a bigger crank and run less boost, im sure the internals can take loads of boost but the heads are going to out-flow anything a 1915 pumps out?
Turbo54
Thats some hardware, how much are the pauter rods, I looked at them but thought they were mega bucks as well as the injection perfection TB's. Can't wait to see it come together. Do you think a little overkill for 1915? With the heads, case rods and transmission etc, why not stick a bigger crank and run less boost, im sure the internals can take loads of boost but the heads are going to out-flow anything a 1915 pumps out?
Turbo54
C'mon kids gather round,
there's a new sensation hitting town,
It's moving straight, low to the ground,
it'll pick you up when your feeling down.
there's a new sensation hitting town,
It's moving straight, low to the ground,
it'll pick you up when your feeling down.
GL1972 Wolfsburg Wizard
432 posts · joined Aug 2003 ·
I wonder how it will perform in the sand?
BiX Veteran Volks Folk
2,499 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Keep the updates coming, that will be an awesome ride.
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!
Go hard or go home!!!!
pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome
6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
Out of curiosity, why are you using a rising rate regulator if it's gonna be fully programable EFI?
BTW, can you answer this for me,
http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=42175
BTW, can you answer this for me,
http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=42175
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
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bat69 There is no status
791 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
Mannnn thats fully sikkkk. I want one. Cant wait for the regular updates like your previous project.
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"Drive it like dirt"
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sean68 Officially Full-On Dubber
239 posts · joined Feb 2004 ·
that would have to be my dream shopping list:duh
just have to keep dreaming a little while longer
soon soon
that will be one insane ride when finished
i've seen peter from canberra vw centre in his manx with a n/a 2276.....that thing goes like the clappers
just have to keep dreaming a little while longer
soon soon
that will be one insane ride when finished
i've seen peter from canberra vw centre in his manx with a n/a 2276.....that thing goes like the clappers
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fastnuf Slammed & Awesome Dubber
86 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·
I wouldnt mind that in the back of my manx. I could see the wind flowing over my bald patch and parting my beard as I pulled a wheel stand whilst driving down the main road.
Allthough I would be too scared to have a power plant like that in the back. It could give an old bastard like me a heart attack.
Can't wait to read the up dates on this awesome machine.......
Allthough I would be too scared to have a power plant like that in the back. It could give an old bastard like me a heart attack.
Can't wait to read the up dates on this awesome machine.......
White Knuckle Racing Team.
Dasdubber DAS Resto Haus
5,746 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Holy moly - great stuff. Lets hope people can sit back and enjoy the rebuild rather than criticising someone else's ideas/work. Thanks for sharing it with us all as not too many would be able to build/own an engine like that!
hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m
2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·
conservative estimated BHP @ the rear wheels should be around 240-260 . depends how it behaves itself as to how much boost will be run , but we are thinking around 22-24psi .VWENVY wrote:Holy Crap Batman!!:thumb
Whats the estimated power to weight on this thing?
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FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m
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they are pretty tough rods , rated at 1200hp I believe . The injectors have been calculated at 800cc . A deep 1 1/2 litre deep sump will be used . The crank is a Bernie Bergmann 69mm full-circle counterweight . ( couldn't post pics of crank and rods assembled yet as they are in the engine for a dummy fit-up , will post pics soon ). and thanks for asking about the oval , it has just had a new 24" long x 7" diameter muffler custom made and fitted . It is so quiet that you cant hear it running from 30 feet . I have taken several customers for test flights , and not one of them could believe that it was powered by a VW engine . will update the oval posts soon .Doug Sweetman wrote:That is some serious hardcore internals there...... those rods look indestructible !
This will be scary fast !
HAve you worked out what injectors you will need for it yet ?
Are you using a deep sump / extension ?
What / who's crank are you using ?
Look forward to further updates....... Hope the oval is still going strong.
Team
FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m
2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·
I purchased the pauter rods in 1997 for one of my 1600 speedway engines , but never got to use them . Back then they cost me AUD$1850 for the set . I'm not sure what they cost today . the 48IDF throttle bodies cost $680 each . When I had purchased the rods , I also purchased the crank to match . The rods are so large that the case has to be clearanced even with a 69mm crank . This is one of the reasons we decided to stay with 1916.nn[ Edited on 13-8-2005 by hypo-vw ]Turbo54 wrote:Did someone say $$$$$!!
how much are the pauter rods, as well as the injection perfection TB's, why not stick a bigger crank
Turbo54
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FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m
2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·
hope we never find out ! if you are near the sand at a drag strip , then you had better rethink the brakes . ha haGL1972 wrote:I wonder how it will perform in the sand?
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FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
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FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m
2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·
even though the efi system is fully programmable , it is still necessary to run the fuel pressure higher as the pressure in the intake manifold becomes higher . Thinking of the extremes , imagine what would happen if manifold pressure became higher than fuel pressure . High pressure air would blow back up the fuel rails when the injector pulses .pete wood wrote:Out of curiosity, why are you using a rising rate regulator if it's gonna be fully programable EFI?
BTW, can you answer this for me,
http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=42175
as for the cabrio - it is not water injected , however I have thought of fitting it . boost runs at 7 psi . the crank is a 2 litre counterweighted . the SU carburettor is a 2" off a 4.2 6cyl jaguar .
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FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
2443TT Fahrvergnugen
962 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·
Hey Hypo-vw, isn't it fun assenbling engines when all your parts arrive in shrink wrap!
Are you sure your injectors are large enough? I mean 4 x 800cc will only flow enough fuel for 580HP! If your aiming for 260-280 a more modest 550-660cc injectors would provide a more tunable (for low end drivability) than the 800's. (even with sequential efi)
Also, your clutch is a little on the extreme side too, especially for a 450-500kg buggy. A 3 puck and a stage 3 clutch would hold back 400+hp in a full bodied car, and you'd better have a hydraulic actuator conversion or you'll get really good at replacing clutch cables. I would have suggested a 4 puck and a 1700 lb clutch to hold back 300rwhp easy in a buggy, and not stress the drive line as much.
What rod length did you go for? What kind of pistons? Have you considered using an autocraft a dry sump pump with external oil pressure regulation, cause when this car hooks up you know your wheels will be in the air for 1st, 2nd and a little in 3rd, and your deep sump will be drained of oil rapidly at RPM with the oil strugling to get down to the deep sump again...
Sorry, I don't mean to rag on your project but after all forums are about sharing of knowledge after all. It looks like its going to be awesome once its finished.nn[ Edited on 27-7-2005 by iswinkels ]
Are you sure your injectors are large enough? I mean 4 x 800cc will only flow enough fuel for 580HP! If your aiming for 260-280 a more modest 550-660cc injectors would provide a more tunable (for low end drivability) than the 800's. (even with sequential efi)
Also, your clutch is a little on the extreme side too, especially for a 450-500kg buggy. A 3 puck and a stage 3 clutch would hold back 400+hp in a full bodied car, and you'd better have a hydraulic actuator conversion or you'll get really good at replacing clutch cables. I would have suggested a 4 puck and a 1700 lb clutch to hold back 300rwhp easy in a buggy, and not stress the drive line as much.
What rod length did you go for? What kind of pistons? Have you considered using an autocraft a dry sump pump with external oil pressure regulation, cause when this car hooks up you know your wheels will be in the air for 1st, 2nd and a little in 3rd, and your deep sump will be drained of oil rapidly at RPM with the oil strugling to get down to the deep sump again...
Sorry, I don't mean to rag on your project but after all forums are about sharing of knowledge after all. It looks like its going to be awesome once its finished.nn[ Edited on 27-7-2005 by iswinkels ]
hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m
2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·
We chose 800cc injectors as we are currently using 550cc 13b turbo injectors in the oval , and it runs out of fuel at 15lbs ( this is why i could only run 14lbs @ the VW drags ) the engine in the buggy is much smaller but we plan to run a lot more boost than I am currently using . If we have trouble tuning the bottom end , I may have to run 8 smaller injectors in a progressive pattern .iswinkels wrote:Hey Hypo-vw, isn't it fun assenbling engines when all your parts arrive in shrink wrap!
Are you sure your injectors are large enough? I mean 4 x 800cc will only flow enough fuel for 580HP! If your aiming for 260-280 a more modest 550-660cc injectors would provide a more tunable (for low end drivability) than the 800's. (even with sequential efi)
Also, your clutch is a little on the extreme side too, especially for a 450-500kg buggy. A 3 puck and a stage 3 clutch would hold back 400+hp in a full bodied car, and you'd better have a hydraulic actuator conversion or you'll get really good at replacing clutch cables. I would have suggested a 4 puck and a 1700 lb clutch to hold back 300rwhp easy in a buggy, and not stress the drive line as much.
What rod length did you go for? What kind of pistons? Have you considered using an autocraft a dry sump pump with external oil pressure regulation, cause when this car hooks up you know your wheels will be in the air for 1st, 2nd and a little in 3rd, and your deep sump will be drained of oil rapidly at RPM with the oil strugling to get down to the deep sump again...
Sorry, I don't mean to rag on your project but after all forums are about sharing of knowledge after all. It looks like its going to be awesome once its finished.nn[ Edited on 27-7-2005 by iswinkels ]
The buggy currently weighed 510kg with a stock 1600 . I suspect that the tare weight will rise about 50-60kg to around 560kg once all the plumbing is completed , pumps ,radiator for the intercooler, oil cooler, larger ignition coil etc . If all clutch components are fitted correctly the clutch cable should not suffer . I have run a 3000lb stage 4 pressure plate in my sports sedan now for 5 years , participated at 32 race meetings which means a lot of gear changes , the clutch pedal feels like stock and have never replaced the cable yet . The 3 puk disc is a little harsh , but very usable on the street . One of my employees has run a 3 puk in his 2165 63' bug on the street now for 4 years without any problems .
rods are stock length , pistons are 94mm mahle 'b' type and wheelie bars will keep the front down to a respectable height .nn[ Edited on 27-7-2005 by hypo-vw ]
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PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
Brad Wolfsburg Elder
3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
that is awesome .. I look fwd to hearing it run .....
wibble Freakinbuggied
404 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·
Watching intently... my manx will be getting reborn over the next six months with a tough webber fed stroker (thanks to Iswinkles) cant wait to see this build up though!
pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome
6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
Are you planning to add eletric steering to them? coz from what I see the main steering wheel will just be for decoration.hypo-vw wrote:rods are stock length , pistons are 94mm mahle 'b' type and wheelie bars will keep the front down to a respectable height.
:P
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http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/
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jakjones Officially Full-On Dubber
217 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·
High powered VW Buggy,
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bajaben Officially Full-On Dubber
222 posts · joined May 2005 ·
just wondering where you got the turbo and injector kits from. am looking at doing the same to my 1776cc 65 baja and running about say 4-7 psi as a daily driver, should scare the pants off some people in town who think they are all that
Adolph Commited Dubber
69 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·
That thing is going to be fast!!!!
What cam?
How much boost?
2 bar in that engine should make over 400Hp!!:thumb
What cam?
How much boost?
2 bar in that engine should make over 400Hp!!:thumb
2000cc turbo type 4, dragster (325Kw)
2714cc no turbo, no gas, street bug (140Kw)
2714cc no turbo, no gas, street bug (140Kw)
dubbill Officially Full-On Dubber
336 posts · joined Jul 2005 ·
an updates???
hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m
2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·
the engine case has been stripped of all its studs and is ready to bore for the 94mm barrels . I have taken my time and done a lot of homework over the past 2 weeks on the engine case alone as there are a lot of bad reports out there about them . I have even emailed Gene Berg Enterprises and discussed this with their technical support department . I have heard rumours of engine oil system problems due to the oil pressure relief valves not seating correctly and I have had 2 customers of my own have oil leakage from the crank pulley area . After investigating these problems extensively , I have found that the new heavy duty alloy cases have not been fitted with an oil restricter to the front snout bearing ( as the origional cases had ) so excessive amounts of oil in this area cannot escape back through the oil drain and is forced out the rear pulley area . This will be rectified on this case , and the case will be machined at the front spigot with a seal fitted also .
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PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m
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transmission housing has had all of the ribs fully polished
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FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m
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a closer shot of the polished ribs . when the transmission is completed , the ribs will be masked and the trans will be painted gloss black .
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FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m
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fully polished heavy duty side covers
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FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m
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side plate fitted to housing to give you an idea what the trans should look like
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FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)
hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m
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the turbo plenims that bolt onto the top of the injection throttle bodies has arrived
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FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)