never happy im now toying with the idea of a turbo hayabussa in a vw based vehicle or know of any i have dibs on a motor now im looking for a street manx to put it into ive heard of zcars in the uk building a twin hayabussa based rocket 1000+hp & 1000 kg's wadda u rekon??
I would have thought 1000hp would make it a bit of a hand-grenade.
However, it's quite reasonable to get the weight of a buggy down under 600kg. I've heard as low as 500kg is possible. You'd need to be really sparing with your use of metal and you'd be looking at using mostly composites and aluminium, but it's possible. There wouldn't be much VW pan left over that's all. That might casue you issues with rego if you want it.
BTW, I know quaife specially makes a chain drive LSD for this sort of thing.
Pete, transmission was my only concern, sounds like it would be fun, i have seen it in the UK but in kit car form..
go for it, i would be watching with interest
Andy
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The other week I watched a couple of Busa powered open wheel clubman type things at Wakefield Park. They beat most other things on the track that day.
" You're not a team player "
I have been thinking about it for sometime, and I think I have all the issues sorted out. It will require fairly heavy modification of whatever it goes into, but I know how I would do it.
Wes -
www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control...
🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.
Go for it, we used to put the 350 ypvs yamaha engines into sand rails in the uk... worked very well, we were planing to use a 900 blade engine in one(wrote mine off so had an engine sitting) but never got it finished before i moved here. How you would get round the main road inspections here i wouldnt know, the uk is much easier to deal with..
a busa in a buggy= one bloody fast and very amuzing car
i will watch this one with great intrest.
steff......................
Life with out a v-dub is no life at all!!!!!
sax wrote:Busa powered open wheel clubman type things
Now that sounds like fun.
Imaging feeding them some Forced Induction!!
INSANE
Over 200Kws of rear mounted 4ltr V8 Quad cam action.....
In a Bay
I think it was on 5th gear or top gear ( the uk car show) they were testing the latest westfeild clubman. It was less than 500kgs and had a hyabussa motor in it. I think it was the 4th or 5th fastest around the track. only beaten by some serious cars such as porsche GT,merc/maclaren etc.
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!
just contacted zcars the results are not in yet on the ultima twin hayabussa engined monster although they suspect another word record (thier tiger z 100 wr 0-60in 2.8 sec oh thats MILES /HOUR) it seems the ultima they built is lighter n more powerfull than ulitmas own car which holds 0-100-0 in 10.3 which is a clear second faster than mclarens f1 road car!!!!:o
now i want one in the front n one in the back
thanks for the heads up on the quaife pete but having built a few off road buggies in my time im simply going to mount the engine transversly and direct drive off the sprocket to the diff (irs locked of course) retaining the 6 speed sequential g box electric reverse???
Theres a mad bloke in country Victoria (from memory) thats been building turboed Hayabusa's for a while now! I think i read the article in a bike mag about 2 years ago and he had some ridiculously fast bikes and bigger plans on the go! Contact the major bike mags here in Australia and one of them will point you in the right direction for sure!!!
go nuts i say!!😂nn[ Edited on 25-8-2005 by inthebuckethenry ]
what about reverse gear:P
would make a sweet ride though. I meet a guy in brissy last year with a turboed bussa. He was banned from the drag catagory he was running in cause they couldnt keep up, unfair they cried!
There are two PRB Clubman cars registered in NSW with Hyabusa engines. Bike engines do not undergo the same ADR testing as car engines so I don't think you can build a new car with one (re-engining an old car could be totally different). A Couple of years ago NSW would accept some form of emissions test as proof of compliance and the two guys (brothers?) built the PRB's and had them registered. Very nice cars, no expense spared to build. You use a separate reversing gearbox in line between the gearbox and diff (quaife etc). Check out the ozclubbies.com forum for more info on the PRB's.
mate if you do the same distance travel on a moto as you do on your car you will definately need rebuilds every year or so, eg. ZYF-R1 / R6's are usualy rebiult after 40,000 km
PLUS there are turbo busaz but they produce to a maximum 599hp (type ghostrider in google and have look at bike),
so either way \like the guy above me said, you then need a tranny and if ya havent realised, BIKES ARE CHAIN FED to the rear sprocket! which means no flywheel!!! you do the math!
76 baywindow kombi - V8 & Weddle racing diff and gearbox
Daily driven beach cruiser
The last R6 I rode had 45,000km on the clock and was in no need of a rebuild.
Bike engines do have flywheels, they are on the crankshaft like every other motor. The chain drive is no issue. Reverse is a minor issue but easily solved.
The way they do the drives in the clubmans and westfields is inefficient. You could do a better set-up in a rear engined car.
A lot of people talk about bike engines having no torque and not being able to move a car. Unfortunately those people don't know what they are talking about. A 1300cc haybusa engine has more torque and power everywhere in the rev range compared to a VW 1300cc engine.
Wes -
www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control...
🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.
I had 120, 000km on my Kwaka GPz 9 and it was still going very strong.
The main thing is to do an oil change every 5,000km.
In the episode of 5th gear I saw the car was powered by two Kwaka 1000's and the guy actually blew one of the motors trying to break his 0-60mile time.nn[ Edited on 13-9-2005 by Jenny ]
kevo wrote:like the guy above me said, you then need a tranny and if ya havent realised, BIKES ARE CHAIN FED to the rear sprocket! which means no flywheel!!! you do the math!
Ummmmm.. well yer, we realise that, perhaps you need to have a look at an Aussie Racing car, one of those goofy looking overgrown go-karts rocketships with mini V8 supercar or old yank Coupe rod kinda bodywork.
They are powered by a Yamaha FJ1200. They simply use a splined adapter/flange that fixes on in place of the sprocket and a everyday driveshaft back to an everyday diff is attached to it.
No brainer, and yes, the engine is sitting lengthwise in the chassis.
L8tr
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Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....
Sorry to get off topic a bit, but has anyone looked at these things. They are terrific value.
http://www.prbaustralia.com.au/
mmm, just imagine if you could get a buggy kit this good in Oz...with Homologation for racing too. :thumb
ok...i havent actually looked at the link yet peet wood...
but you say in your post "just imagine if you could get a buggy kit this good in oz", yet the website is
www.prbAUSTRALIA.com.auWell, if you'd looked at the link first you'd know that PBR are like a Lotus 7, not a buggy...
Have any of you guys seen the Ghost rider videos..I'll try and find the link...its a 500hp turbo hyabusa. The video is of his mate on board his busa doing 325kmh and the ghostrider overtakes him holdinig the front wheel 12 inches off the ground........he does it again in the pouring rain at 288kmh.
Here's a link for you
http://thekneeslider.com/engines/motorcycle-powered-cars.php
I did have some others, I'll see if I can find them later...
boof2332 wrote:Have any of you guys seen the Ghost rider videos..I'll try and find the link...its a 500hp turbo hyabusa. The video is of his mate on board his busa doing 325kmh and the ghostrider overtakes him holdinig the front wheel 12 inches off the ground........he does it again in the pouring rain at 288kmh.
http://www.ghostridermovie.net/?p=newsOk, I give up on buggies. I want one of these...
half a Hp/kilo
http://dpcars.aprsworld.com/dp1bld/index.htm
BTW, it's AWD
😵My thinking would be to do a moderate boost twin turbocharger setup on the V8 hybrid.
Christ, that would make a serious weopon.
Yeeeee-harrr!
L8tr
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Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....
boof2332 wrote:Have any of you guys seen the Ghost rider videos..I'll try and find the link...its a 500hp turbo hyabusa. The video is of his mate on board his busa doing 325kmh and the ghostrider overtakes him holdinig the front wheel 12 inches off the ground........he does it again in the pouring rain at 288kmh.
Sure have!
Its a fairly....errrr.......extreme kind of bike dun you think!!!!!!!
If you listen carefully at the audio of him running up and down the airstrip at close to 300Kph you can hear him playing on the throttle to keep the front end down.........................
I still shake my head thinking of that thing.
L8tr
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Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....
well jenny..if you READ any of the posts..you would realise that by me saying buggy...it was quoting pete wood.
get off your highhorse.
Anthony🥷
Sorry you took offence, that wasn't my intent... it sounded like you missed the point of Pete's post.nn[ Edited on 15-9-2005 by Jenny ]
tassupervee wrote:My thinking would be to do a moderate boost twin turbocharger setup on the V8 hybrid.
Christ, that would make a serious weopon.
Yeeeee-harrr!
L8tr
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Chuck on some skinny tyres and it'd be AWD drift magic.:P
Or just imagine the 4wd burnouts you could do... :duh
There are turbo kits in the uk that you can buy for these engines that take them straight to 450hp plus and i have heard of supercharger set ups
You only need two tools
Wd40 if it don't move and it should
Duct tape if it move's and it shouldn't
