what exhaust and why?

~air fooled~ · 2005-05-12T01:38:09+00:00

there have been a few simlar threads posted but its time for me to make a final decision what i am going to go with on the 1600tp buggy... i am a fan of twin cannons. for access and visual appeal reasons... is there any conclusive evidence and experience that these cause the rumoured problems? your experiences with them? i also like marine boys setup with motorbike pipes...

ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 · 27 Sep 2005, 7:00 pm

#412338

Well there you have it, the theory behind it is reasonable but in practice it's nothing to get too concerned about as far as performance is concerned, so it all comes down to noise and looks and to me economics/durability.

wibble Freakinbuggied

404 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 27 Sep 2005, 8:33 pm

#412395

So, is there any dyno info available on the "loss of power" from cannons just wondering as i have had both systems and didn't notice ant difference and the better departure angle would overide a very slight drop (if any ) in power output, my 2C anyways 🤓

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VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 28 Sep 2005, 12:42 am

#412508

I think its just the fact that the cannons are louder and sound like your reving the car out more, gives the effect that its not performing as well.

Jasmine the 75 L Bug
56 oval, 2000 New Beetle

ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 · 28 Sep 2005, 5:29 pm

#412691

If it's too loud then you're too old!!...... I don't think it would pass with a copper though😀

HEL-70Y Officially Full-On Dubber

247 posts · joined May 2005 · 29 Sep 2005, 12:44 pm

#412973

ancientbugger wrote:If it's too loud then you're too old!!......

I totally have to agree with you there there (good call).

This convo seems to have flipped from all favouring 4 into one, and now to cannons, everyones personal choice is all it comes to in the end i guess

Before you judge someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you judge them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 29 Sep 2005, 2:34 pm

#412993

I still preffer the 4 into one, because i like the sound of the weber over the tractor noise of the canons.

But i don't think they effect your performance to much.

Jasmine the 75 L Bug
56 oval, 2000 New Beetle

manxed69 Officially Full-On Dubber

211 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 23 Oct 2005, 10:17 pm

#420881

Yeah, I like my cannons for all of the reasons that have already been mentioned, but I would also be interested to know by how much power they were loosing. Then again, thinking of how the hell I would get a 4 into 1 around my bar work, maybe I'm better off not knowing.

As for noise, well that's really only when your sticking the boot in. On my last trip to Fraser my daughter fell asleep while I was driving on the highway. The nosie doesn't bother me too much. The only time that I worry is when I get the buggy out of the garage a 6AM in the moring, and when I do that I do it quickly and I let him warm up down the street.

64vwmark Fahrvergnugen

930 posts · joined Dec 2004 · 4 Nov 2005, 11:52 pm

#425050

64vwmark wrote:I have cannons on mine, they are ok but a 4 into 1 system is the go if you want to get the most out of your engine. I think a 4 into 1 sounds better too.

Have now fitted a 4 into 1 on mine, it is so much better than cannons!

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Beach Buggy
74 L Beetle
Mk4 Golf

ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 · 5 Nov 2005, 9:26 pm

#425249

That's certainly very pretty but doesn't it get in the way when you're messing around with the engine? I mean the carb and the distributor is straight behind it or is it easy to dismantle?

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 · 5 Nov 2005, 11:48 pm

#425308

u can undo the springs and the muffler and spark arrestor bit come off the top of the headers i beleive barry./

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1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
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64vwmark Fahrvergnugen

930 posts · joined Dec 2004 · 6 Nov 2005, 1:44 am

#425326

Anthiron wrote:u can undo the springs and the muffler and spark arrestor bit come off the top of the headers i beleive barry./

True the top section of the exhaust does come off but it's such a tight fit that it's not even worth trying.

The exhaust is quite easy to work around anyway, everything is still quite accessible, you just have to make sure that it has cooled down first.

Beach Buggy
74 L Beetle
Mk4 Golf

ancientbugger Custom Title Time!

1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 · 6 Nov 2005, 5:26 pm

#425505

I love that last remark as I've still got scars up my arms from our old Range Rover trying to disconnect the starter motor after it wouldn't stop running. It's positioned right underneath the headers so I know what you mean:thumb