Anyone run Twin Kadrons on a standard 1600tp?

buzzbug Praise the lowered

1,992 posts · joined Mar 2003 · 18 Jan 2005, 5:53 pm

#295057

If you do, what is it like compared to the stock single carby?

do you get better fuel consumption and power?
lee.

some people are like slinky's
they have no useful purpose
but they are fun to watch
when you push them down the stairs

VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 18 Jan 2005, 6:06 pm

#295072

I did run them on a stock 1600cc tp
And found a dramatic improvement on power,
But they chew more fuel though

Jasmine the 75 L Bug
56 oval, 2000 New Beetle

buzzbug Praise the lowered

1,992 posts · joined Mar 2003 · 18 Jan 2005, 6:11 pm

#295078

cheers dude,

anyone else??

some people are like slinky's
they have no useful purpose
but they are fun to watch
when you push them down the stairs

robnjo Veteran Volks Folk

2,082 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 18 Jan 2005, 7:10 pm

#295114

I'm iterested this info too, also are they kadron that are on on 70 t3s ?

twoguns simply aircooled

4,275 posts · joined Nov 2002 · 18 Jan 2005, 7:36 pm

#295138

iam about to on a motor i have for hte ute. dont care about fuel, i jsut want power... :thumb

Simply Cruzin'...

VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 18 Jan 2005, 7:58 pm

#295145

My Beetle had a stock 1600tp with the twin Kads,
and it use to give my mates silvia with an SR20DET engine it a fair run for its money, but as soon as i hit 4th the silvia would leave me for dead.
The 1 advantage the Kads have over the webers is that you tune them and they are fine up to your next service.
But with the webers they drop out of tune all the time.

Jasmine the 75 L Bug
56 oval, 2000 New Beetle

kroozzn63 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,005 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 18 Jan 2005, 8:32 pm

#295154

im intrested in that too that was good basic info and comparisn thanks "love to give a silvia a run that would be fun

show us your gates

VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 18 Jan 2005, 8:35 pm

#295156

If you want a good set of Kadrons contact Rod penrose.
He has brand new ones and second hand one that he is selling

Jasmine the 75 L Bug
56 oval, 2000 New Beetle

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 18 Jan 2005, 10:42 pm

#295215

robnjo wrote:I'm iterested this info too, also are they kadrons that are on on 70 t3s ?

nope, twin Solexs come on type3s.

"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

ColumBUS Hail To The Bus Driver!

3,601 posts · joined Sep 2004 · 18 Jan 2005, 11:08 pm

#295222

i want a single kadron, but i have no munnies

VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 19 Jan 2005, 12:03 am

#295237

I've never seen anyone use a single Kadron.
Has it been done?

Jasmine the 75 L Bug
56 oval, 2000 New Beetle

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 19 Jan 2005, 9:50 am

#295339

no but if anyone is silly enough to try it, Kikko is our man :P LOL

"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

VWFREAK VWFREAK

2,577 posts · joined May 2004 · 19 Jan 2005, 10:00 am

#295344

I've had them on 1600tp and sp and the power gain is unreal compare to stock. The first drive seams like power on tap.

Good cheapish mod.

62deluxe Custom Title Time!

1,718 posts · joined Nov 2002 · 19 Jan 2005, 12:31 pm

#295437

I've run a set on a stock 1600tp for a while and they're great.
Power hike is well worth it.
The fuel consumtion only goes up a noticable amount if you've got your foot in it all the time.
Which I'd never do.............:thumb

56astro Custom Title Time!

1,772 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 4 Oct 2005, 1:24 pm

#414193

Did my first trip to work and back since the rego was done and these are the details:

1916
twin Kads
009 dizzy
Thunderbird muffler on 1 3/8 non-merged extractors
'56 bodied '70 chassis
SSP tranny with std 1st,2nd,3rd, 0.82 kombi 4th
mostly 100 - 105km/h
2800 rpm @ 100km/h

200km round trip
17lts
8.5 L/100km
33 MPG

happy with that if it contunues
😍

[ Edited on 5-10-2005 by 56astro ]

VW car, VW engine ...... keepin it "real"
35MPG on 101.3kPa

jo_tas Custom Title Time!

1,547 posts · joined Aug 2004 · 4 Oct 2005, 4:06 pm

#414231

wow nice... very tempting future mod.. would they fit under the rear engine lid of a type 3?

Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 4 Oct 2005, 4:27 pm

#414237

Some of the guys on shop talk forums were talking about a single mount kadron. Theres no reason why you couldnt do it, just run an adaptor to a std manifold.

I'm not sure why you would do it though, a progressive 2bbl webber is a much better option if you want to go single carb

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 4 Oct 2005, 5:57 pm

#414267

Kads, 009 and Thunderbird extractors are a good upgrade for a 1600 - I ran one like that for a few thousand kays. Didn't check for fuel consumption but it should improve if you don't cane it

Pay your debts, CxxT

Marz Seriously Crusin Dubber

117 posts · joined Jul 2004 · 4 Oct 2005, 6:31 pm

#414288

yeah im runnin twin kaddys 009 and thunderbird extracters, nice power nothin ova the top and it'l sit on 100 nicely. fuel consumption is like mention above only increases with ur lead foot.

VDubya Seriously Crusin Dubber

103 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 4 Oct 2005, 6:37 pm

#414297

Mmmmm a single kadron, are you for real, I mean why would you bother you'd get better results from a baked been can, or a holey shitspray, no the holey would be worse.
As for the last post imagine this if if you put on a real set of exstractors and a really well tuned webber or even a stock carb you would would have an extra thousand k's out of it.

You people worry me.

By the way Jo looks cute how bout we get together

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 4 Oct 2005, 7:56 pm

#414346

VDubya wrote:Mmmmm a single kadron, are you for real, I mean why would you bother you'd get better results from a baked been can, or a holey shitspray, no the holey would be worse.
As for the last post imagine this if if you put on a real set of exstractors and a really well tuned webber or even a stock carb you would would have an extra thousand k's out of it.

You people worry me.

By the way Jo looks cute how bout we get together

Nothing wrong with any of those components, IMO - wanna explain?

Pay your debts, CxxT

jo_tas Custom Title Time!

1,547 posts · joined Aug 2004 · 4 Oct 2005, 8:46 pm

#414367

VDubya wrote:You people worry me.

By the way Jo looks cute how bout we get together

YOU worry ME! :P
And besides, i'm taken! :sandrine

[ Edited on 4-10-2005 by jo_tas ]

silver Dangerous when poked

2,169 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 4 Oct 2005, 10:30 pm

#414417

VWCOOL wrote:
VDubya wrote:Mmmmm a single kadron, are you for real, I mean why would you bother you'd get better results from a baked been can, or a holey shitspray, no the holey would be worse.
As for the last post imagine this if if you put on a real set of exstractors and a really well tuned webber or even a stock carb you would would have an extra thousand k's out of it.

You people worry me.

By the way Jo looks cute how bout we get together
Nothing wrong with any of those components, IMO - wanna explain?

I agree...... that any of these can help, I have even seen a stromberg on a beetle !

Keeping it real !

akean1 Remember To Love

1,088 posts · joined Dec 2004 · 4 Oct 2005, 11:44 pm

#414431

pete wood wrote:
robnjo wrote:I'm iterested this info too, also are they kadrons that are on on 70 t3s ?
nope, twin Solexs come on type3s.

are'nt kads solex carbys?

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 5 Oct 2005, 10:27 am

#414480

Yeah, Kadrons are basically a big, grown-up Solex design made in Brazil. There were twin little Solexs (maybe a 28mm bore??) used on Type 3s. What we call Kadrons are 40mm thorugh the guts and are a drop-on 'package' for Beetle engines

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