headers/extractors for mrk3 golf

17 posts · joined Oct 2005 · 3 Oct 2005, 10:57 pm

#414093

time for a bit of tech advice i think,
dispite my girlfriends pleas i was wondering if getting extractors/ headers on my 2lt mrk3 golf would be a good idea, bad idea or completeley pointless and im kinda stoopid for even asking such a peabrain question.
be honest!
luv/etc
chrisso

oh, and any other quick and simple mods that can be done. and cheap.

thanks!

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typ-fre Insano Dub Head

749 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 4 Oct 2005, 10:14 am

#414158

your probarbly better off doin cosmetic mods to it if you want cheaper, extractors is a good idea, but are you goin to be happy with it, also it would have little effect in power on a stock engine.

dom

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vwrallycar Insano Dub Head

721 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 7 Oct 2005, 1:58 pm

#415182

depends if you are chasing some more horsepower, if you are then go that way and do the rest of the exhaust as well. should also improve fuel economy as well

ABF2.016V Casual Dubber

26 posts · joined Jun 2005 · 10 Oct 2005, 11:57 am

#415834

Not worth it on a Mk3.... or most waterc'd VWs for that matter. The stock manifolds are too good and you'll only get a noticeable increase on a heavily tuned engine. Also, the Mk3 engine mounts are too soft and you'll either a) eventually crack the manifold at the base, or b) get leaks from the flexi joint as it can't handle the ridiculous amount of engine movement.

I tried some hand formed extractors on my last 16v Ibiza and gained just 4Nm in the mid range and 3hp at 9,300rpm... just not worth it. It hasn't just been me either; I know of many others, namely a friend in the UK with another Ibiza Cupra club car - he gained 4hp with a genuine group 2 VWM manifold 👎 Plus these are heavily tuned cars aswell passing a lot of exhaust gas and revving to 5 figures.

You'd be better of getting a 270 cam and vernier pulley and playing around with that. I've recently done this to a Mk3 powered Mk1 and after advancing the ignition timing, it gained 10.5kW at the wheels 🙂

-Mk1 Golf 2.0 16v ABF
-SEAT Ibiza Cupra 2.0 16v, built motor on Throttle Bodies
-SEAT Ibiza Cupra 2.0 16v stocker

mrchristopher Learner Dubber

17 posts · joined Oct 2005 · 10 Oct 2005, 4:16 pm

#415900

that sounds like a good idea,
all my mech friends and rev heads just tell me to slap a turbo on it,
but i want to keep it subtle- i like my dub as it is, the last thing i want is a buzz buzz exhaust and a body kit- too much jazz for my liking.

and besides, its more fun with a fast but granny lookin car!

if i play around with diff cams it wont be instantly recognisable once you lift the hood will it? i dont want my insurance going loopy if the worst happens and i write it off

ABF2.016V Casual Dubber

26 posts · joined Jun 2005 · 10 Oct 2005, 5:40 pm

#415950

mrchristopher wrote:if i play around with diff cams it wont be instantly recognisable once you lift the hood will it? i dont want my insurance going loopy if the worst happens and i write it off

The cam itself is undetectable on all 8v motors unless you remove the rocker cover. You can't even see the lobes with the oil filler cap removed as there's a splash tray covering the entire cam.

I very much doubt any insurance company would detect a cam, though. Having said that, I've always declared mine but I have unlimited mods policies!!!!

What will be detectable, though, is the vernier pulley... well, it'll have the upper cam belt cover over it but that only takes 2 metal clips to remove.

If you're really worried, just declare the mods 🙂

-Mk1 Golf 2.0 16v ABF
-SEAT Ibiza Cupra 2.0 16v, built motor on Throttle Bodies
-SEAT Ibiza Cupra 2.0 16v stocker