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Turbo54 Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined Jul 2004 ·

#404728
I wouldv'e thought it would be better to run the turbo and otherbits on the otherside of the engine over the wheels to prevent mono city! Also drawinghot air off the turbo in to the fan might be a problem even with a sheild of sorts.
No question it should go like stink, if the body hold together!
T54
C'mon kids gather round,
there's a new sensation hitting town,
It's moving straight, low to the ground,
it'll pick you up when your feeling down.

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#404859
71superbug wrote:dont you think that the t04E might be a bit large for a 1916cc?.


Anthony🥷
I dont think so , as we are planning to run the engine to 8500rpm and will need the larger housings to get the flow required .
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FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#404864
Turbo54 wrote:I wouldv'e thought it would be better to run the turbo and otherbits on the otherside of the engine over the wheels to prevent mono city! Also drawinghot air off the turbo in to the fan might be a problem even with a sheild of sorts.
No question it should go like stink, if the body hold together!
T54
the awsome amount of heat produced by the turbo would create problems with the limited amount of available space in the back of the buggy . You have to remember that in the back of the buggy will be an intercooler ( air-to -water ) , ignition coil , breather tank , microtec EFI computer , wiring looms , battery , speakers , subwoofer , amplifier , dual-stage boost controller and other items . Putting the turbo in there is just not an option on this buggy . I am not at all concerned by the small amount of heat that will be drawn into the cooling fan as there is massive amounts of air turbulance at the rear of the buggy to disperse 95% of the turbo heat . Also my cabrio runs the turbo in the engine bay just behind the cooling fan and the high volume of air pumped by these units does compensate for the additional heat . I am extremely confident that no overheating problems will be evident . as for the weight hanging out the back of the buggy , the only additional weight is the turbo and wastegate which weighs approximately 6 kilos . All the other exhaust plumbing is there on a buggy any how . To try to compensate for the additional weight of the turbo , we have decided to manufacture a new rear engine cage from aluminium rather than steel . thanks for your comments , much appreciated .
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FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#404866
Doug Sweetman wrote:Sorry Wayne, understand that was an honest mistake, so no need to get upset.

I get everybody's name wrong here, theres no malice in it.
thanks Doug , no problem . just a little touchy on the subject . I go to sleep at night knowing that I have done the right thing by all of my customers .
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FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#405394
ahh ok...fair call WAYNE :P.

was just curious about the turbo sizing thats all.

how is it in comparison to the to4b. as i know these turbos are good for 300rwhp on a rotary...what made you decide to go the t04 over a newer garrett GT ball bearing unit?


Anthony🥷

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#405395
71superbug wrote:ahh ok...fair call WAYNE :P.

was just curious about the turbo sizing thats all.

how is it in comparison to the to4b. as i know these turbos are good for 300rwhp on a rotary...what made you decide to go the t04 over a newer garrett GT ball bearing unit?


Anthony🥷
all ball bearing type turbos are water cooled units . I know that we are going to run a small radiator for the intercooler , but I did not want to heat the water up by passing it through the turbo . It is critical that we keep the intercooler as cool as possible . I chose to stay with a wet bearing ( oil-cooled ) turbo for this reason .
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FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

2443TT Fahrvergnugen

962 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#405464
Oil cooled is less complicated alright. I run two seperate liquid cooling systems. The one for the intercooler that uses a 3/4" davies craig pump, and the other for the turbine bearing housing uses a swiftec 3/8th pump. The amount of hoses under the back of my car makes it look like spaghetti!

GT's provide faster spoolup, but thats not a factor if your going to be reving it to 8500 RPM so not only is it simpler to install, its a little overkill. I did notice a drop in overall oil temps when I hooked up the water cooling on my GT turbo though, which is important when your dealing with a performance engine that you want to survive.

I'm curious to know your plans for rear tyre sizes, gear ratio's and diff ratio.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#405568
What cam are you planning to use Wayne?
Perhaps you might like to call "Sure Cam" up here in Brisbane (Stafford).
He is very clued up on Turbo cams and has a lot more up to date technology than most US companies.
A little expensive but worth every cent.
Don't have his number on me but will let you know if you are interested.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#405729
iswinkels wrote:I'm curious to know your plans for rear tyre sizes, gear ratio's and diff ratio.
The buggy is currently running 31" rear tyres on 8" wide rims . gear ratios chosen are 4.11 / 2.31 / 1.70 / 1.40 and a 3.875 ring & pinion . Probably run on 28" slicks at the strip ( but not confirmed as yet )
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FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#405730
dangerous wrote:What cam are you planning to use Wayne?
Perhaps you might like to call "Sure Cam" up here in Brisbane (Stafford).
He is very clued up on Turbo cams and has a lot more up to date technology than most US companies.
A little expensive but worth every cent.
Don't have his number on me but will let you know if you are interested.
Thanks Dave , can you send me u2u with those details .
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FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

13BVW Seriously Crusin Dubber

151 posts · joined Sep 2005 ·

#406536
Good stuff. cant wait to give ya a run on the track. By the way, my manx puts out 216 at the wheels on 10psi.Have run 11.98@114 taking it easy cuz the box the stuffed.

Who did your gearbox? Mine is shot and I need some help.
13BVW 11.80@114mph

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#406553
13BVW wrote:Good stuff. cant wait to give ya a run on the track. By the way, my manx puts out 216 at the wheels on 10psi.Have run 11.98@114 taking it easy cuz the box the stuffed.

Who did your gearbox? Mine is shot and I need some help.
At WPVW we do our own transmission building / reconditioning / modification / race-prep . call me on 02-42725844.bus hrs .
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FASTEST ET @ WARWICK 2010 & 2011
FASTEST SPEED @ WARWICK 2011
FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#406619
Could u plz u2u me an estimated budget for this total engine/transmission proj? Be wondering, would be worth saving for in the future if i decide to go that way, cause thats gonna be wild.
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kroozzn63 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,005 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#406655
man you should make a kit like that with a basic price ,as a bolt on , everyone on here would then have a basic guide to build a motor for, and therefore have a more realistic idea on price because its allways the question on threads with pics of an awesome setup like this..
show us your gates

MickH Hairy Gutted Sloth

3,389 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#420409
Get back up there matey.....
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MickH Hairy Gutted Sloth

3,389 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#420627
bump...Any more progress??
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kyro Casual Dubber

32 posts · joined Nov 2004 ·

#420631
Man thats one fully sick Buggy

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#421688
the rear panel of the buggy has been cut / modified to allow us to manufacture a much smoother looking rear panel without the bumps and rises in it .

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FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#421689
another view of the rear panel modification

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FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

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#421690
seats and carpets removed

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PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

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#421692
a view of the dash and instrument panel prior to stripping . You will be able to compare the new look dash with this image at a later date

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PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#421695
the rear floor section has now been cut out much larger and the entire firewall and floor section removed will be replaced with perspex or lexen , so that the engine and transmission detail will be visible

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FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

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#421696
rollcage removed from body

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FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

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#421697
another view of the buggy with the rollcage removed

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PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

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#421698
the engineer ( Cris Dowde Engineering , Dapto ) does a dummy fit-up with the intercooler to make sure everything fits prior to welding the unit together

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PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

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#421699
front screen removed from the buggy

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FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

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#421700
all lights are removed

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FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

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#421701
the bonnet is removed from the buggy to find a huge mess !!

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PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

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#421703
the wiring at the back of the dash assembly is a mess !!

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PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)

hypo-vw Australias 1st 10sec street beetle (Jan 2007) 10.49secs@132m

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#421705
looks a lot cleaner under the dash now with all of the wiring removed

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FASTEST ET & SPEED WSID 2012
PB - 6.33@113.07(1/8) & 9.88@135(1/4)