H 6 3.O l

subaruboxer Officially Full-On Dubber

292 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 31 Oct 2005, 3:00 am

#423166

Does anyone know of a conversion of Subaru's H 6 3.0 l engine. It is such a great engine, 210 HP and 282 NM torque. It is just 5 cm longer than the EJ 22, it would fit better into the enginebay of a beetle than the EJ 20 T.
There must be a conversion somewhere?? My local Subaru dealer has one for sale and got me thinking about it.

Jörg

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ryfoz Casual Dubber

27 posts · joined Oct 2005 · 31 Oct 2005, 3:26 am

#423168

looks fairly compact, i would expect some one some where to have tried it. Isnt the engine out of a reasonably late model Suby?? Liberty??

jvl054 Wolfsburg Wizard

403 posts · joined May 2005 · 31 Oct 2005, 6:53 am

#423187

Chase up some details,deffently interesting!!!!JVLRacing

type2nut Officially Full-On Dubber

223 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 31 Oct 2005, 7:25 am

#423193

There is one in a Caravelle/Transporter in the States.
Check out www.smallcar.com
If it isn't detailed on the site itself yet there is a posting on the forum.
It does look like an excellent engine for most purposes.
I have heard that they have to be revved a bit hard though so may not be suitable for some uses in busses.
With that much powere/torque though you have to wonder if it matters needing to rev it a bit!
I tried to find one here in Aus about a year ago, with no luck.

Andy.

VDubya Seriously Crusin Dubber

103 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 31 Oct 2005, 7:44 am

#423200

I have a Subaroo 6 pack in my Caravelle.
But boof will fart-speak and tell you it is in an overseas car.
See the Is My T3 Normal thread.

I was going to join the Democrats to keep the bastards honest, but joined the forum instead.

type2nut Officially Full-On Dubber

223 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 31 Oct 2005, 1:03 pm

#423286

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/images/smilies/jesus.gif
VDubya one day will you please provide a post without having a dig at one person or another????
How about some useful information eg:
what Suby engine you have if it is relevant to subaruboxer's question.

Thanks, http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/images/smilies/thumbup.gif

Andy.

VDubya Seriously Crusin Dubber

103 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 31 Oct 2005, 1:06 pm

#423288

type2nut wrote:http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/images/smilies/jesus.gif
VDubya one day will you please provide a post without having a dig at one person or another????
How about some useful information eg:
what Suby engine you have if it is relevant to subaruboxer's question.

Thanks, http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/images/smilies/thumbup.gif

Andy.

Another one who can't read.

Tells him where to look. It's a EJ33.
More photos tomorrow to prove what a dickhead boof is.

I was going to join the Democrats to keep the bastards honest, but joined the forum instead.

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 · 31 Oct 2005, 5:51 pm

#423386

They always say those who tease the most cannot handle it. They also say people first resort to swearing, then violence when they are not intelligent enough to respond! We better watch out!

All the useless punts you have posted after other people offer advice or ask for it, and all it took was the one tiny litte post.

Its a shame your buttons are so easy to push....its already boring.

[ Edited on 31-10-05 by boof2332 ]

type2nut Officially Full-On Dubber

223 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 31 Oct 2005, 6:13 pm

#423400

I can read perfectly well thank you.
What I don't NECESSARILY want to do is look at another post to reference your comments to this post.

Jorg's question was about the late model H6, just in case YOU cant read.

By the way, there is no such thing as "a EJ33."
For a start, if there were such a thing, it would be "AN" EJ33.
However, there is no such thing anyway, Subaru's EJ series engines range from 20 to 25 I think. Their 3.3 litre capacity engine is an EG series.

Am I being pedantic?
Yes.
Why when I have been a member of this group for nigh on 2 years, and have never resort to such purile pedantry until now?
Because as Boof said, your buttons are easy to push, it's fun and I haven't tired of it.
Yet.

For all I know, Boof MAY be a d#** head but I have seen nothing to make me think that is the case. I'm afraid that what I have seen written by you does not lead me to the same conclusion!

Jorg, sorry your post has been highjacked.
Mr. Moderator, feel free to delete my diatribe should you feel so inclined and can we deal with this guy and his negative postings?

Enough said, I have tired of it now and I will not respond to any more of VDubya's ridiculous posts. I will respond to your posts if you are willing to partake in the normal, decent questions, discussions and yes, disagreements that make this section of Aussie Veedubbers such a useful resource to all or us, you included, that like to play with our VW's this way.

[ Edited on 31-10-2005 by type2nut ]

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 · 31 Oct 2005, 6:23 pm

#423405

Just do a search under Vdubya...ridiculous posts make up about 99% of them!

Matt

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 31 Oct 2005, 10:26 pm

#423552

Hi

There was one at the 2003 nats, I think I have posted these photos before. I also remember that Graham Lees from Brokvale spares had 2.7 in a blue T3 in the early 90s.

Steve

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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 31 Oct 2005, 10:27 pm

#423555

Hi

This the one I meant to post.

Steve

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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 1 Nov 2005, 1:07 am

#423577

Jorge , I have a Out back H6 and very impressed by the power of the motor , good quality .I have been over it with a tape many times and I am sure it will fit .
What are they asking for it mate ?
Can you get the ecu with it ?
see if you can getthe cast headers , they may swap from left to right so the come out at pully end ( front )

If I was there I would buy it for my next project
Good spoting Mate .

& Matt :thumb

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lugnuts Custom Title Time!

1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 1 Nov 2005, 3:42 am

#423593

Ive got one in my outback too revs like theres no tomorrow :thumb

subaruboxer Officially Full-On Dubber

292 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 1 Nov 2005, 7:35 am

#423620

Thanks so far, it would be just the engine, no ecu or wiring harness and no header! The H 6 3.3 l is huge compared to the H 6 3.0 l engine. The 2005 model has even 245 HP and 297 Nm torque. Maybe that would be overkill for a beetle! Here two more pictures, not of the one on sale.

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VDubya Seriously Crusin Dubber

103 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 1 Nov 2005, 7:39 am

#423621

type2nut wrote:By the way, there is no such thing as "a EJ33."
For a start, if there were such a thing, it would be "AN" EJ33.
However, there is no such thing anyway, Subaru's EJ series engines range from 20 to 25 I think. Their 3.3 litre capacity engine is an EG series.

The more you try the more you just make yourself look stupid.

You better tell the guys at Total Seal how dumb they are making stuff for an engine which doesn't exist!
http://www.totalseal.com/pg42.pdf

Even Subaru got it wrong when they stamped the engine!

And all of these people got it worng?

http://www.japanparts.it/japan/c9/c9-SUB.htm
http://www.adelaidejap.com.au/subaru.htm
http://www.adelaidejap.com.au/front%20cuts.htm
http://www.sprintcarworld.com.au/Bill/SCW%20WEBSITE%20SALE%20AD%202005.pdf
http://members.aol.com/CCRInc/RebuiltSubaruEngines.html
http://www.ultimatesubaru.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-6580.html

When you are done wiping the egg of your face I will look forward to your posts when you find your next bandwagon to jump on.

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ruckus Veteran Volks Folk

2,118 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 1 Nov 2005, 9:04 am

#423633

Mate you got rolled. Just take it on the chin and have the dignity to walk away. The fact that many people got it wrong does not make it right in any case.

Oh and type2nut, as an English teacher I'm very proud! 🥷

VDubya Seriously Crusin Dubber

103 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 1 Nov 2005, 9:10 am

#423636

ruckus wrote:The fact that many people got it wrong does not make it right in any case.

Only one person got it wrong. type2nut.

But being on the forum for a whole two years means he must know better!

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YIOughta Seriously Crusin Dubber

190 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 1 Nov 2005, 9:51 am

#423646

VDubya wrote:The more you try the more you just make yourself look stupid.

How poignant - well said!! hahaha

totalseal and some bloke called craig say its an EJ so it must be hahahaha dickhead!!!!

You have the personality of a wet bag of shit vdubya - loose the attitude it just makes you look like a 15 year old tosser who thinks hes a man cause his testies have finally dropped!!

🥷

VDubya Seriously Crusin Dubber

103 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 1 Nov 2005, 10:28 am

#423653

YIOughta wrote:totalseal and some bloke called craig say its an EJ so it must be hahahaha dickhead!!!!

Now to discredit all of you.
Subaru don't even know what engine they have hey?
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.subaru.co.jp/spirits/history/h5/h5_29.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DEJ33%2Bsubaru%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN

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YIOughta Seriously Crusin Dubber

190 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 1 Nov 2005, 10:48 am

#423657

VDubya wrote:The more you try the more you just make yourself look stupid.

pffft hahahahaha

get on that horse you rode in on and crawl back under your rock

🥷

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 2 Nov 2005, 12:47 am

#423939

Jorge ,buy it any way .

Shit I wonder if I can DHL it 🙂 down under

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Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 2 Nov 2005, 11:16 am

#424028

Subaru america seem to think it's an EG33;
http://www.subaru-global.com/about/history/1991-001.html#subhead-001
Model : EG33
Type : Water-cooled, Horizontally-Opposed 6-cylinder, 24-valve
Bore x stroke : 96.9mm x 75.0mm
Engine displacement : 3,318cc
Compression ratio : 10.0
Max. output (ps/rpm) : 240/6,000
Max. torque (kg-m/rpm) : 31.5/4,800

some quotes;

The SVX's EG33 engine was an indirect development of the 2.7 L ER27 flat-6 from the XT6, expanded to 3,318 cc (96.9 mm bore by 75 mm stroke) and equipped with dual overhead camshafts and 4 valves per cylinder. An increase in compression ratio to 10.0:1 brought power to 230 hp (172 kW) at 5,400 rpm and torque to 228 ft.lbf (309 Nm) at 4,400 rpm.

Subaru terms from http://www.legacygt.com/forums/printthread.php?t=585;
EG – Subaru 6-cylinder engines (up through mid to late 90’s)
EG33 – Subaru 3.3 litre 6-cylinder engine code (SVX)
EJ – Subaru 4-cylinder engines (early 90’s and newer)
EJ20 – Subaru 2.0 litre 4-cylinder engine code
EJ205 – Subaru 2.0 litre turbo engine (US WRX)
EJ22 – Subaru 2.2 litre 4-cylinder engine code
EJ25 – Subaru 2.5 litre 4-cylinder engine code
EJ255 – Subaru 2.5 litre turbo engine (US Forester XT, Baja Turbo)
EJ257 – Subaru 2.5 litre turbo engine (US WRX STi)
EZ – Subaru 6-cylinder engines (post EG series H6 engines)
EZ30R – Subaru 3.0 litre 6-cylinder engine code (BL/BP Legacy and new Outback)

From Japanese carview website;
http://catalogue.carview.co.jp/SUBARU/ALCYONE-SVX/1991/engines.asp
says it is an EG33

You could also go to a SVX forum, mention EJ33 and be laughed at.

I guess to prove everyone wrong you'd need to post a pic of an EJ33 engine number.

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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 2 Nov 2005, 10:39 pm

#424295

Hi

Theres a T3 fitted with a 2.7 Suby on the 4 sales at moment on the Club VeeDub Sydney site http://www.clubvw.org.au

Steve

crewcabconnection Being Sid James

1,922 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 3 Nov 2005, 6:39 am

#424344

oh for christ sake does it matter, its the Outback 6 hes on about, it was a fair question.

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richbaker78 Casual Dubber

38 posts · joined Oct 2005 · 3 Nov 2005, 10:05 pm

#424659

cmon guys - find somewhere else for your argument I dont care whos right or wrong - some of us are interestedi n the engine/ info i just had to read a big load of s*** to get this far. Please no more just tech info.

subaruboxer Officially Full-On Dubber

292 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 6 Nov 2005, 6:50 pm

#425533

Measured the H 6 / EZ 30 yesterday that my subaru dealer has for sale. That is an impressive engine.
It is 81 cm wide, 46,5 cm long , 61 cm high and weights
169 kg.

Checked the enginebay of my bug, it would probably fit in.
But my trans is moved forward ( L-bug box), and the trans would be to weak for that much torque.
I would need a stronger box, a Porsche box is longer. That could still work with cutting out the torsion bars. Or maybe a bustrans with a bellhousing of WWW.rjes.com would work. But I don't know the measurements of those boxes and how much abuse they can take.

But for a kombi or a type three (notch) this engine is a good option.

Jörg

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richbaker78 Casual Dubber

38 posts · joined Oct 2005 · 8 Nov 2005, 3:13 am

#426214

apparently (and I speak only from what I have heard) the bus trans can take massive abuse esp when you run a 091 with the Type 25 syncro diff. I have heard of a drag bug supposedly running 400+bhp?? over here with this set up - apparently after breaking lots of gearboxes this is what this guy settled for (i believeit might be Richie Webb?? a convertable beetle)

The extra advantage of the syncro diff is that you have a switchable diff lock - now that sounds like fun!!

Anyway none of thats based on my personal experience I heard it thru the grape vine when someone was telling me I would break the 091 2litre bus box in my van so make of it what you may!! . But im gona break mine first before I spend huge amounts on built boxes!!

richbaker78 Casual Dubber

38 posts · joined Oct 2005 · 8 Nov 2005, 3:16 am

#426215

oops forgot to say - when I get my RJES bell housing onto my 2ltr 091 box next week I can do you some rough measurements of the whole unit if that helps?

subaruboxer Officially Full-On Dubber

292 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 8 Nov 2005, 5:56 am

#426220

Hi richbaker78,
yes that would be nice of you.
Jörg

[ Edited on 19-11-2005 by subaruboxer ]

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